Lutheran (EL
* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.
Alleluia! Christ is Risen!
Posted on 04/01/2013 9:23:05 AM PDT by JerseyanExile
Catholic ping.
Ping!
They are going to make a lot more money from all the offerings the homosexuals are going to give them when they start going to church.
dyslexia is not your friend;)
I swear I read the headline as ‘putting their blue dress days behind them’
LOL!!!!
The problem is not liberal vs conservative. True Christianity is a force, philosophy and FAITH that cannot be pigeonholed.
The answer is to teach the truths of Christianity and that includes not only charity, but also living the life of a follower of Jesus Christ - which means a DAILY walk in conversion from sin into holiness.
Not an easy thing to do, but it is possible with humility and a strong prayer life and faith in God.
Churches which preach only social justice without the conversion process are no more that glorified social workers.
With modern technology, you can teach seminary in a spare room of a church. Same for regular college classes.
Exactly.
Luther Seminary in St. Paul, mentioned in the article, is an ELCA seminary. Its problems are self imposed. It is hard to see how a believer in God and the Bible would choose to attend an ELCA seminary. It is also hard to see how someone who doesn’t believe in God and the Bible would wish to attend a seminary at all.
Ahh, it makes me smile to see credentialism bite the dust.
Too bad that these bureaucrats are often the ones pushing homosexuality and more subtly abortion against the will of the congregants. It would have been better if they downsized maybe 50 years ago. Someone once told me that entering seminary is the way some avoided the Vietnam draft. I have observed men and some women that appear to not even have the gift to be a pastor but probably not any other career either, graduates of seminary and shuffled off to small country churches. Never building, just maintaining or decreasing members. Many have been nice but wierd. ELCA is my reference. And yes this blue model put many requirements on the pay and benefits of pastors. When the money runs out, they are called somewhere else. Or worse.
BEEP!
If Truth is simply whatever is being promoted most vigorously by politicians and the media at the time, what need do I have to go to a seminary, or what need is there for a minister to preach it?
Just turn on the TV and sit back.
The two Missouri Synod seminaries in the US have a combined enrollment of 951.
I'm way off topic here and do not mean to hijack the thread, but just how did muzzie mosques pop up by the hundreds these past ten years? Do they out-evangelize all of the Christian denominations combined? Why is stinkin' islam ascendant?
* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.
Alleluia! Christ is Risen!
Those homosexual offerings you speak of are good for maybe a generation. Since gays do not reproduce, the homosexual “family” does not grow. No first communion, bible school, kids at church camp, youth ministries, etc.
There are significantly fewer activities, and therefore money in the embracing of the homosexual lifestyle for churches. Yet embrace they do. In the name of enlightenment and tolerance.
How many families exit the church when they see the elevation of lifestyles that even 15 years ago were considered perverse?
What parent wants their children in that environment? Moreover, who trusts their kids away at church camp for a week with flamers who, “just love kids?”
The ELCA has lost their ever loving minds. And they’ve lost hundreds of churches to prove it.
In a post-Christian culture, why would someone attend a seminary to prepare to proclaim something neither he/she nor they think is anything more than a fable?
What is the advertisement? Attend our “Dupe the Masses” school? “Fables R Us”?
You have to remember that Christianity also has a phenomenal church growth in the US, much more so than Islam. The difference is that it is occurring in quasi-denominations ("Word of Faith," e.g.) and non-denominations, where the seminary experience is a few years all the way down to no years. Moreover, if all the people in all the storefront churches, online churches, and home churches were going to steeple churches, there would be no issue here--and once you add in all the megachurches, Islam doesn't have a chance here.
It’s how muzzie “outreach” works (for over 1400 years now) where outright conquest is not “practical.” They infiltrate an area, and expand it as their numbers grow. Then they demand that they be governed by Sharia law for their own little group, followed by a demand for local “autonomy” and eventually for their own enforcement mechanisms, with all “outside” influence eliminated (including no competing religions - no “proselytizing,” of course, with death the punishment for an infraction).
Progressive politics will not mix with Sharia, of course, but Sharia means the dismantling, and eventual destruction of the America you and I know and love. Because Progressivism means to destroy America, Progressives will tolerate the behavior of Islamic lunatics as long as it aids in the destruction of America, under the belief that they can eventually bring Sharia under their control. The inevitable conflict will be interesting.
I will probably miss the bloody outcome. I view that prospect with mixed emotions. ( ^8 }
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