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[[Eyes do not uncross at the touch of a hand]]

Were you there? did you witness it? And yes eyes DO spontaniously uncross- it’s a medical fact-

Bone can and does regenetraTE

Pneumonias do clear up

One last time- God may be healign htese peopel BUT He is doign so in a way that is entirely possible NATURALLY- there is NOTHING supernatural about what is done-

[[I have said there are people who see these things you are demanding, I have given examples of what I have seen.]]

No you haven’t- I’ve not seen oen exampel of the thigns I was asking for- not one-

[[Just because you have not seen something in no way means they have not happened.]]

Never said that was the case- I’ve said time and itme again I’ll happily cede that sueoprnatural miracles are still happenign WHEN you shwo that htey are- All you’ve presented are cases which do NOT fit the requirement of SUPERNATURAL- they do howerver fit the cfriteria for natural healing

[[I find it interesting that you are demanding God prove to you something that is already evident.]]

I find it morei nterestign that you refuse to provide any such evidence- and inssit that God healing purely withint the natural boundaries is ‘good enough’ to be sueprnatural-

[[And yes, I pity you for that “not seeing what is there”.]]

Yes yes, we’ve established that you feel spiritually superior- that’s plenty evident- Now how abotu providing evidence of SUPERNATURAL MIRACLES which VIOLATE NATURAL LAW? No? ok- pity away!

Matthew 4:23,24 - Jesus healed all manner of diseases.

Matthew 14:34-36 - All were healed.

Acts 5:12,15,16 - They were healed every one.

Again- Where are the amputees receivign mising limbs? Where are the peopel missing organs receivign new disease free organs instantaniously? Where are the healers CURING leprosy instantaniously? Why is htere still leprosy todaY? Should healers have wiped out leprosy by now? Or are they just content ‘healing’ issues that can’t be verified as TRUE SUPERNATURAL MIRACLES which VIOLATE NATURAL LAW and hwich peopel can look upon and KNOW beyond a shadow of a doubt that hwat htye just wintessed was a TRUE violation of natural law?

Healers today ‘require’ the person beign healed to ‘beleive’ and if they aren’t healed- well then the healer has their out- either ‘God didn’t want to heal them, or the person didn’t beleive enough’ Yet we see that Christ and the descipels healed EVERYONE that was broguth to them and even those hwo were unbeleivers

* Dead people have no faith - Luke 7:11-17; John 11:38-44.

* Elymas received a miracle because he lacked faith - Acts 13:6-12.

* Peter was rescued though he lacked faith - Matthew 14:25-33.

* Jesus calmed a storm though the disciples lacked faith - Mark 4:35-41.

* Elijah called fire from heaven when the people lacked faith - 1 Kings 18:20-40.

“People did not need faith to receive a miracle, but sometimes miracles were done as a reward for faith. In these cases, the man of God knew miraculously that the faith existed (Acts 14:8-10; Mark 6:1-6). In any case, they never attempted a miracle, failed, and blamed it on the people’s lack of faith.”

http://www.gospelway.com/god/miracles_nature.php

“Finally it was over ... I spent a few minutes watching the wheelchair patients leave. All the desperately ill patients who had been in wheelchairs were still in wheelchairs ... I stood in the corridor watching the hopeless cases leave, seeing the tears of the parents as they pushed their crippled children to the elevators - Nolen, p. 67.
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I’ll ask again- Either God is not doing TRUE SUPERNATURAL MIRACLES which VIOLATE NATURAL LAW, or as you’ve indicated (maybe it ws Daniel) that God is still doing TRUE SUPERNATURAL MIRACLES which VIOLATE NATURAL LAW, but just to a lesser extent- thus indicating God’s power is either less than what it used to be, OR that God has chosen to limit Himself to only now healing within the confines of natural possibilties-

You can pity me all you like- but your pity is worth nothign if you keep refusing to address the above question- why are peopel beign turned away today when they present cases which REQUIRE TRUE SUPERNATURAL MIRACLES which VIOLATE NATURAL LAW? Why are healers ONLY “healing” carefully screened folks and never actually provide medical records to corroborate that a TRUE SUPERNATURAL MIRACLES which VIOLATE NATURAL LAW has taken place?

“E. Summary: True Miracles Are Impossible by Natural Law”

http://www.gospelway.com/god/miracles_nature.php

“Every true miracle possessed all four of the above characteristics. This demonstrated to the observers that the event was impossible by natural law, but had to be God’s intervention.”

“The Bible distinguishes miracles from events that happen in answer to prayer according to natural law.

We have already described true miracles and also false miracles. But there is a third category of event in which God answers prayer, but does so by working through natural law.”

[[Bone does not just regenerate, a person does not have honey combed bones one day and the next perfect.]]

I asked for evidnece- NOT for anectdotal accoutns of someoen who told soemone somethign soemwhere- Do you have records shwoign that hte bones was honeycombed one day and perfect the next? Or is everyoen left to wonder whether the person was beign hoenst or not as is so common with msot ‘miracles’ which can’t be medically verified? Please psot hte before and after exrays if they exist- but again- the TRUE SUPERNATURAL MIRACLES which instantionously VIOPLATED NATURAL LAW that hte apostles and Christ and prophets did needed no such proof because it was blatantly obvious to all that what htey had just wintessed was a TRUE VIOLATION OF NATURAL LAW- they didn’t have to just take soemone’s word for it (thankfuly, because MOST peopel exxaggerate)

If you’ve got hte before and after exrays- I’ll gladly cede that a supernatural miracle took place- IF you’re demandign I simpyl take your word that soemthign SUPERNATURAL took place, well I’ll stick to the actual supernatural miracles of the bible which didn’t need to rely on guesswork or hearsay and hwich truly did bviolate natural laws- and I’ll also conclude that you haven’t got any evidence that shows that SUPERNATURAL MIRACLES which VOLATER NATURAL LAW are stil l takign place today because a a lack of actual evidence for healings that fall outside of natural possibilties- We;ve goen of for quite a number of posts now, and still you haven’t provided any evidence and apparently are angry (or filled with pity) for me because I don’t accept natural healing possiibilties as TRUE SUPERNATURAL MIRACLES which VIOLATE NATURE as they uised to do i nthe bible and which coudl NOT be cofnused for havign happened in any other way