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To: Campion

As a non-evangelical, I can’t comment on you question. I was trying to understand how a speech could “win” the papacy, if it is indeed the Holy Spirit who chooses. The answer was nonsense. I reflected it back to the poster.

Are you making the argument that the evangelical positions are correct because the same spirit guides them that chooses the pope? If so, I’d like to see how that works!


14 posted on 03/27/2013 8:18:16 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
I was trying to understand how a speech could “win” the papacy, if it is indeed the Holy Spirit who chooses.

That's easy enough, even if you believe the assertions of the article nonsense. One could explain it as: the Holy Spirit moved Bergoglio to make the speech, which was the vehicle God choose to move the hearts of the cardinals to affirm His choice as Pope. A;though I would say that "winning" the Papacy is a poor choice of words; "attaining" would probably be better.

15 posted on 03/27/2013 8:25:59 AM PDT by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Are you making the argument that the evangelical positions are correct

I'm making the argument that it's hypocritical to claim, on the one hand, that the Holy Spirit guides Marty Average Protestant when Marty does his Bible study, but on the other hand that the Holy Spirit is not active and not guiding cardinals while they talk about the next Pope or listen to a speech from someone they're evaluating. Rule out the second and you rule out the first.

As I said, God ordinarily works through ordinary means.

16 posted on 03/27/2013 9:49:47 AM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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