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The mainline Mormons did NOT have a "prophet" in charge who wasn't a polygamist until the 1940s...(a little-known fact).

Its fifth "prophet" was Lorenzo Snow, the guy who perhaps more than any other Lds "prophet" reinforced the Mormon notion that God the Father was once a man who got the "god job" and that married temple Mormons can become rival-gods to THE god.

I found the following responses in this forum to Henry Jacobs' question most interesting:

From AllieOop:

I don't know which of his wives was from Mantua, but here is some info on his wives: Quote: "Before leaving Nauvoo, Snow accepted the principle of plural marriage and took four wives: Charlotte Squires (age 20), Mary Adaline Goddard (age 32), Sarah Ann Prichard (age 18 ), and Harriet Amelia Squires (age 26). Snow would later take several more wives: Eleanor Houtz (age 14), Mary Elizabeth Houtz (younger sister of Eleanor), Caroline Horton (age 29), Sarah Minnie Ephamina (age 16). Snow also wed the 17-year-old Pheobe Woodruff, the daughter of Wilford Woodruff. Snow fathered the child Rhea Lucile Snow at the age of 83 while serving as president of the LDS Church."

And:

I was too vague in my first post. I was really looking for information on the 16 year old Sarah Minnie Ephamina. I looked over on ancestry.com and her name is actually: "Sarah Minnie Ephramina Jensen" She was born in Brigham City in 1854 (Oct.10). Her parents are: "Hans Peter Jensen" and "Sarah Josephine Dinah Clawson". She married Lorenzo Snow on June 12, 1871 (SLC). She died on Jan. 2, 1908 (SLC). There are a lot more wives listed for Lorenzo Snow (actually too many to list here) over on ancestry.com (that weren't included in the quote above in my other post). Snow also married Sarah Minnie Jensen's sister, "Huldah Amelia Jensen".

And, responding to bugoy1's comment that: The first four you see were all the SAME DAY. Snow had just been appointed as an apostle. But you can't really accept that calling unless you're married - and not just married, but you have to have multiple wives (back then anyway). So yes, that would be quite the interesting honeymoon....

AllieOop added: Yeah, GREAT honeymoon....especially since two of them were sisters (the Squires sister). He also married a second set of sisters later.

I was also quite intrigued by ff42's comment on this forum:

Start here: http://www.lds.org/churchhistory/presidents/leaders.jsp, select Snow. Press "Significant Events" on the left. Notice no mention of wives or marriage. Now reference the Gospel Principles manual, page 181. "We can also intentionally deceive others ... by telling only part of the truth". Proof positive, by their own definition, that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints actively and with fore-thought participates in "bearing false witness".

In other words, poster ff42 points the reader to this specific page on the Lds church Web site: Lorenzo Snow, 5th President of the Church...Biographical Sketch

You would think that if the Lds church valued women that a man's wife (or wives, in this case) would be worthy of a mention within a significant man's "biographical sketch." But, no, not with the Lds church's cover-up of its historical polygamy amongst its top dogs!

The Lds church published a series a "Presidents of the Church" books from approximately 1996-2010. They culled together these Presidents' most telling quotes from their lives, and injected biographical details. The problem was that NONE of these books mention the plural wives of these Mormon "prophets" into the 1940s! Talk about open Mormon church devaluing of women as wives and moms!!!!

Hence, ff42 cites the Mormon Sunday School manual, Gospel Principles (p. 181): "We can also intentionally deceive others ... by telling only part of the truth."

As ff42 says, "Proof positive, by their own definition, that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints actively and with fore-thought participates in "bearing false witness".

1 posted on 03/23/2013 5:07:42 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: All; 2ndDivisionVet
From a Friday thread post from 2nddivisionvet: There is nothing in our current legal system or national moral climate that will stop polygamy from becoming the next liberal cause...Polygamy Will be Next (And Much More)

(So it wasn't just "liberals" who have a history of militating vs. monogamy!)

And for those who might be tempted to argue that the Lds church "did away" with polygamy in 1890, then why...
...was it NOT until the 1940s that the Lds church had a non-polygamist president at its helm?
...did they secretly solemnize over 250 additional "plural unions" from 1890-1910?
...publish material in the 1960s and 1970s from Lds "apostle" Bruce McConkie that the Mormon jesus would re-institute this "sacred practice" when he returned?
...do they contend that polygamy carries forth into the afterlife not only for all these past polygamist "prophets" (& others) of the church, but also even its own CURRENT general authorities who have remarried after their first wives died?

Why do they claim that CURRENT monogamists like these because polygamists upon death?

And how is that to be considered "curtailing" polygamy when they promote it?

2 posted on 03/23/2013 5:24:44 AM PDT by Colofornian
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Btw, for those who think anything involving Lorenzo Snow is so "yesteryear": Each year, the Mormon church produces curricula which is to be a special year-long emphasis in reading/discussing for the entire church.

Whose material do you think was designated for 2013?

That's right, Lorenzo Snow...the guy who took a 14 yo "bride" as a third wife! ...The guy who was marrying four brides in a single day! The guy who was marrying a couple of pairs of sisters! [Even tho the Old Testament in the Bible clearly stated: 18 “‘Do not take your wife’s sister as a rival wife and have sexual relations with her while your wife is living. (Lev. 18:18)]

3 posted on 03/23/2013 5:38:38 AM PDT by Colofornian
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Here is info on Lorenzo Snow's NINE wives (& 44 children):

The SNOW Family's Ancestry

4 posted on 03/23/2013 5:40:31 AM PDT by Colofornian
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Well, this Snow character hasn’t dug near deep enough into the nursery to top that goatf**kin’ arab pedo the rags are so hot on


6 posted on 03/23/2013 6:24:06 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Colofornian

I’m not a Mormon, but I always understood the context of polygamy among the Mormons to be based on the very imbalanced female to male ratio of their early years. Without a father or husband, a woman would have no other practical way to provide for herself, other than by becoming a prostitute, which of course was frowned upon in Utah.

In addition to that, young men were effectively assigned wives that they could support within their means. And unmarried young men were seen as a threat to the community, more like the criminals that the Mormons eventually drove out of Utah, a former sanctuary to them in the West.

And in retrospect, these social policies seemed to work very well for Mormons as a whole.


7 posted on 03/23/2013 7:11:21 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Colofornian

Genesis
30
And when Rachel saw that she bare Jacob no children, Rachel envied her sister; and said unto Jacob, Give me children, or else I die.

2
And Jacob’s anger was kindled against Rachel: and he said, Am I in God’s stead, who hath withheld from thee the fruit of the womb?

3
And she said, Behold my maid Bilhah, go in unto her; and she shall bear upon my knees, that I may also have children by her.

4
And she gave him Bilhah her handmaid to wife: and Jacob went in unto her.

5
And Bilhah conceived, and bare Jacob a son.

6
And Rachel said, God hath judged me, and hath also heard my voice, and hath given me a son: therefore called she his name Dan.

7
And Bilhah Rachel’s maid conceived again, and bare Jacob a second son.

8
And Rachel said, With great wrestlings have I wrestled with my sister, and I have prevailed: and she called his name Naphtali.

9
When Leah saw that she had left bearing, she took Zilpah her maid, and gave her Jacob to wife.

10
And Zilpah Leah’s maid bare Jacob a son.

11
And Leah said, A troop cometh: and she called his name Gad.

12
And Zilpah Leah’s maid bare Jacob a second son.

13
And Leah said, Happy am I, for the daughters will call me blessed: and she called his name Asher.


9 posted on 03/23/2013 9:05:28 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: Colofornian

Just like Islam, a cult based on the men agreeing to trade their daughters to each other. At least Mormons changed.


12 posted on 03/23/2013 9:45:43 AM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: Colofornian
The mainline Mormons did NOT have a "prophet" in charge who wasn't a polygamist until the 1940s...(a little-known fact).

And NOW they are going to HELL!!!




"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

20 posted on 03/23/2013 11:09:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian

gen 25::6
But unto the sons of the concubines, which Abraham had, Abraham gave gifts, and sent them away from Isaac his son, while he yet lived, eastward, unto the east country.


24 posted on 03/23/2013 12:09:44 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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Btw, March 22, 1882 — 131 years ago yesterday — is when U.S. president Chester Arthur signed the antipolygamy Edmunds Bill into law. It defined polygamous living as “unlawful cohabitation”; it established contracted plural marriages as a punishable offense.


27 posted on 03/23/2013 12:50:53 PM PDT by Colofornian
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