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To: chris37

[[That is your faith and your belief system It is not necessarily precise fact.]]

You are mistaken- I cited FACTS- not beleif- it is a mathematical FACT that even one mutation over billions of years can NOT add non species specific information into a species- it is a FACT that it is mathematically impossible for hte trillions of non species specific infrmation events NEEDED in order to move one species to another is not possible- not even remotely possible- it’s impossible- Don’t take my word for it- take hte word of many secualr scientists who convened in chicago not too long ago and came to this conclusion- Then read Demski and see that he too has coem to the same obvious conclusions-

It’s a FACT that evoltution violates natural laws- it’s a fact that evolution violates chemical laws, it’s a fact that evolution woudl have to violate the second law of thermodynamics - it is a fact that it was environmentally impossible to sustain any sort of environment for evolution EVEN IF evolution had miraculously overcome impossibilties in the first place-

On and on it goes with hte factual impossibilities of evolution- the whoel hypothesised process is doomed by facts right fro mthe beginning- the very begiinings of chemicals to protiens-

[[But it is within the realm of all things possible that you are wrong,]]

Mind explaining a little how nature coudl have overcoem these impossible odds and coudl have violated it’s own rules in order to brign forth the millions of species we have today?

Winning hte lottery is ‘not beyond hte realm of possibility”- Evoltuion IS beyond the realm of possibiltiy- winnign hte lottery is NOT impossible- it’s calculated as mathematically possible- it can happen- however the required trillions of changes needed to move one species to another disimiliar species is NOT possible- Even IF one mutation did happen to succesfully add information to sa species needed to beging a movement towards a different species- that is just one tiny impossible mistake in one single individual over what? billions of years? You NEED trillions of such impossible additions via ‘mistakes by nature’ (even IF they coudkl ADD non species specific information- which they can’t- ONLY lateral gene transference can do such a thing- and species are protected by MANY layersw of defence to prevent such invasive foreign information from occuring)

You are holdign onto a ‘hope’ (I guess) that evolution ‘was not beyond the realm of possibility’ when all the evidence shows infact that it was be3yond the realm of ANY possibiltiy- when hte the fact of the matter is that it is FAR more plausible, and FAR more reasonable with farm ore evidence to back it up, that an itnelligent designer personally designed all the myriad creatures we have today ‘in the beginning’- There is ample evidence that species are irreducibly complex and that their irreducible complexity waqs so compelx and itnricate and so reliant on all the vital parts beign present all at once- that only an itnelligent designer could have even imagiend such a marvelous creation and assembled it and gave it life-

And if such a creation WAS infact created by a Loving Creator, then our reason for being here on earth is pretty clear- because it pleased the3 Creator to bring us forth- the ‘beleif’ (of secualrists’ comes in when they decide that they have no need of their creator, nor any obligation to the Creator- and htey BELIEVE they are nothign but purposeless molecules to man evolution experiemnts by nature DESPITE the overwhelming evidence agaisnt such a hypothesis-

The circumstantial evidence is substantial enough to point to the NEED for an intelligent designer- the evidence AGAINST evolution is pretty clear- it IS beyond hope- beyond the realm of possibilties- and again- don’t beleive me, listen to it straight from secular scientists who concluded it was impossible, and lsiten to current sicentist who also show that it’;s impossible-

It’s good to have hope- but it’s not so good to hope in somethign that is naturally, biologically, chemically, mathematically impossible- it’s far better to look at the actual evidence and to begin to see that there was a marvelously designed purpose behind every species- including us- Don’t just wave your hand and pretend thsoe impossibilties I mentioned don’t matter- they absoltuely DO matter- even just ONE impossibiltiy mentioned is enough to defeat the whole hypothesis right fro mthe star- but hte fact is that htere are MANY impossibiltites associated with evoltuion and the evolutionsit’s ‘models of evolution’ showing suppsoed ‘nice clean lines of evolution’ from oen species to the next are bogus when you actually dig deep into the FACTS- Their ‘msot compelte line of species evoltution’ shwoing ‘similiarl ooking species’ crawlign fro mthe ocean and then living off land was and still IS a VERYU DECEITFUL rendering of the Actual scpeices which lived durign htose times- the textbooks show a nice neat ‘progression’ of features and show drawings of species makign it look like the closest ‘relatives (accordign to them) are very similiar in size0- BUT when you investigate the actual FACT- the ‘closest’ two psecies are NOT similiar in size, infact one is rat sized, whiel hte other is hippo sized-

and htis is their ‘msot complete transitional example’? Wow! just stunning! They had to INTENTIONALLY deceive the unsuspecting public in order to make it appear that they had a near complete neat little transitional species line- but htey infacvt did NOT (and by the way- the reptile that suppsoedly crawled out onto land was NOT able to support it’s weight on the flippers ESPITE their books showign that it could have- The FACTS show (and hwich they quietly later admitted without makign it publically known) was that the species only rarely squirmed onto land then back itno the ocean because they woudl suffocate because they coudl NOT hold themselves off the ground because of their weak fluipper structures- jjust like livign species do today

There coems a poitn where one does not have to rely on faith ion order to beleive their own eyes- and when the FACTS stand on their own account- and evoltuion is one of those areas- The FACTS simply do not support the case- and the FACTS DO support the need for an intelligent designer- Infact, it takes FAITH to beleive evoltution happened despite the overwhelming insurmountable and impossible odds agaisnt it whiel it only takes looking at the FACTS to show that God created thwe world just like He said- He even said that man has ALL the proof it needs all around him so that htere won’t be ANY excuse for not beleivign in Him and in His creation-


78 posted on 03/21/2013 10:39:57 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop

Listen, I’ve no idea why you’ve written all this to me.

I have stated that I do not believe in evolution. I said it was a theory, and I do not think that it is a valid theory.

I believe God created the universe and everything in it, but I cannot prove that is a fact.

It is my belief and my faith, and I do not care if it makes sense to others, I do not care if others agree with me, or if they mock me and call me stupid or anything else.


79 posted on 03/21/2013 11:00:29 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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