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To: chris37
"That is your faith and your belief system. It is not necessarily precise fact. I do believe you are confusing these.

This establishes a framework begging the question of God's existence, placing man before God.

Did you know that the meaning of "faith" and "belief" as used in Biblical Greek are the same word?

"Believe on the Lord Christ Jesus and thou shalt be saved", compared with "Eph 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.", use the same word for faith/believe.

Now which system of epistemology is more veritable? One which is provided by God to man, or one used by man independent of God, attempting to analyze God and all worldly things?

The later system is sometimes referred to as the "Cosmic" system or worldly system.

KOSMOS in the Greek means an orderly system or world in contradistinction to CHAOS or disorder.

The Cosmic system, while very enticing, is discernible from the divine system through faith in Christ.

75 posted on 03/19/2013 6:09:59 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

I understand that, but it cannot be proven to be a fact at this time by anyone is this world.

I’m not saying that it is not a fact, but it cannot be proven to be one, nor can any theory, belief or philosophy related to our purpose and origins.

It is possible that one or more of the currently known theories, beliefs, philosophies, or religious teachings is in fact precisely accurate. It is also possible that none of them are, and the answer is something that we missed or never had the necessary information to assemble as of yet.

What I have noticed with regard to this is that some believe their answer, which ever it may be, is the only possible explanation and that there is no other possible answer, and if someone does answer differently then they are engaging in something that needs to be frowned upon and discouraged.

For example, if an religious person proposes religious answers to these questions, then the atheist ridicules the religious person and the answers. Conversely, if the atheist provides evolution related answers, then a religious person will object on religious grounds.

From my standpoint, this seems like a behavior that humans have engaged in since they began, and that is attempting to control and influence the thoughts and actions of others. Humans seem to be more concerned with whether or not others believe as I believe as opposed to is what I believe actual reality.

So keeping this in mind, when I ask myself what is the true factual actual answer to the questions why are we here, how did we get here and where are we going, the only factual answer that I can come up with is that the precise answers are not known.

For my own part, I believe in the eternal soul of all living things. I believe that soul is a form of energy, spiritual energy, and that this energy is what gives each of us our unique identities, and by law it cannot be created or destroyed, only converted from one form to another. I believe that spiritual energy came from Jesus Christ, whom I view as God, and that it will return to Him. I believe that upon death, this energy leaves our body and goes elsewhere. I believe that destination is Heaven.

I don’t usually put my beliefs in public, but I have done so in this case fully expecting someone to tell me that I am mistaken, and certainly that is possible, because I am just a man trying to understand what I am in something so grand that I simply cannot comprehend it.


77 posted on 03/19/2013 7:18:05 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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