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1 posted on 03/15/2013 10:51:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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The “pope” is not an advocate for the Gospel of Jesus Christ. He advocates a self-made religion full of tradition and rituals. If the writer is “reformed”, he ought to know the distance between those who advocate the Gospel from the Scriptures and that promulgated by Rome. This “pope” is just as errant as all of the rest of them have been and implicitly teaching just as much error.


2 posted on 03/15/2013 10:55:46 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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Honestly, this is to be expected.

When you turn the Creation in Genesis into a “Myth” or story that is only for allegory, there is no reason that the birth narrative of Jesus to be regarded as truth.

I am not agreeing with the guy, but he is using a consistent argument. You can't say one part of the Bible is pure myth and expect to remain true to the events described in the Gospel. The Early Church knew this.

3 posted on 03/15/2013 10:57:28 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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Speaking of stories, the Old Testament is filled with stories of men like Kissling, men who rejected God and advocated going their own way.

If you haven’t read the Bible, now would be a good time to do so.


4 posted on 03/15/2013 10:57:30 AM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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What the author describes is the “progressives” i.e. Communists attempt to take over another institution in their quest to Utopia.


5 posted on 03/15/2013 10:59:48 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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I puzzled for sometime as to why someone who clearly doesn’t believe in Christian tennants would even desire to be called a Christian. The idea of a “progressive” Christian is much like a Jewish Nazi. While some are simply embracing a type cognitive dissonance I came to believe as this article indicates that its not that they want to destory the church as a thing of influence, they just want to destroy its substance and like an invasion of the body snatchers replace its insides.


7 posted on 03/15/2013 11:02:16 AM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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“past president of a group called “Catholics for Choice.””

This is a dishonestly named group. None of them are Catholics. None of them follow the teachings of Jesus Christ or the Catholic Church.

Their goal is to destroy the Catholic Church and all Christians.

They are not for choice. They are for a totalitarian government that imposes its will on others.

They are in favor of the murder of innocent unborn children.

Nothing they say should be taken seriously. They are evil. They are liars. They work for the “Father of Lies”.


10 posted on 03/15/2013 11:13:07 AM PDT by detective
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In fact, for millions of our more secular citizens, the Catholic Church is essentially a stand-in for all (orthodox) Christendom, and critiques of Catholics are often critiques of all Christianity.

I don't agree with this statement. Even atheists I know understand that Catholics hold different beliefs than Protestants. They may not accurately verbalize those differences but they understand that Christianity itself is deeply divided.

13 posted on 03/15/2013 11:20:32 AM PDT by PeevedPatriot
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Kissling, rather self-evidently not a Christian, proposes that catholics abandon Christianity and become Kisslingians.

Its hard to take someone like this seriously. He is running from God. That has consequences.


15 posted on 03/15/2013 11:21:58 AM PDT by marron
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I know a few self-described progressive Christians who believe every word of the Bible was inspired by God, but far more common are the progressives who believe that the church would be a great force for good — if only it shed its actual religious faith. Funny how they rarely make similar arguments to Muslims.

If you attack both religions equally, Christians are more likely to pray for you whereas Muslims are more likely to prey on you.
Christianity is a much safer target. - Tom

22 posted on 03/15/2013 11:51:35 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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Your statement is foolish on a host of levels and demonstrates a total lack of spiritual discernment.

This "pope" is not "an advocate of the Gospel, or the person of Christ whatsoever. According to official Vatican sources:

http://themoynihanletters.com/from-the-desk-of/letter-47-to-mary

His very first act as "pope" was to go to slip out of the Vatican, drive across Rome to the Basilica of St. Mary Major, the largest basilica in the world DEDICATED TO Mary, the so-called "Mother of God". He then proceeded to pray in front of an ancient ICON, called the Salus Populi Romani, or the Protectress of the Roman People (preposterously held by Roman Catholic tradition to have been painted by St. Luke himself). He also brought flowers and laid them beneath the idolic ICON IN HONOR OF MARY!

So, the very first act of this new "pontificate" was to pray before the idol of the Virgin Mary which he chose to do of his own free will! So much for being an "advocate for the Gospel of Jesus Christ!

As an evangelical professor of Biblical and Theological Studies I concur with the genuine spiritual assessment of the situation proclaimed by the spiritually discerning individual below:

"The “pope” is not an advocate for the Gospel of Jesus Christ. He advocates a self-made religion full of tradition and rituals. If the writer is “reformed”, he ought to know the distance between those who advocate the Gospel from the Scriptures and that promulgated by Rome. This “pope” is just as errant as all of the rest of them have been and implicitly teaching just as much error."

35 posted on 03/15/2013 1:11:55 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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“the Catholic Church is essentially a stand-in for all (orthodox) Christendom, and critiques of Catholics are often critiques of all Christianity”

A false statement not based on fact at all! I am a former Catholic who became a Bible-based born again Christian by the will of God and not man. There is a profound difference between religion and true spirituality. The Word of God is “inspired”, meaning ‘God breathed’ or ‘exhaled’: Genesis 2:7; Psalm 33:6; Hebrews 4:12;2Tim.3:16; 2Peter 1:20-21. A true seeker of Truth would start in Genesis and read through Revelations to find Jesus, The Word of God, John 1:1 to become transformed. ats

49 posted on 03/15/2013 8:42:46 PM PDT by ATriedSoul (These times.)
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