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The accounts of the crucifixion are hopelessly irreconcilable. Jesus cannot have said the things he is reported to have said if, as Mark tells us, he was silent the entire time.


131 posted on 03/03/2013 8:11:21 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: TBP
The accounts of the crucifixion are hopelessly irreconcilable. Jesus cannot have said the things he is reported to have said if, as Mark tells us, he was silent the entire time.

That's not how I see it. If you decide you do, it's up to you. What I would like to know is how this affects the truth about whether or not it happened? Are you implying that the whole story was made up? By whom and why? If the crucifixion didn't happen, then I guess you would also say the resurrection didn't happen either? If these events didn't happen, then are you saying Christianity is a false faith? To say that you don't believe the accounts can be reconciled, you have to take the next step to explain the consequences. If, indeed, they are "hopelessly irreconcilable", then what next? Toss out the whole Bible? What's your answer?

157 posted on 03/03/2013 10:47:30 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: TBP
The accounts of the crucifixion are hopelessly irreconcilable. Jesus cannot have said the things he is reported to have said if, as Mark tells us, he was silent the entire time.

Chapter and verse, please, for where Mark says he was silent the entire time of the crucifixion. In fact, Mark has him crying out specific words with a loud voice during his crucifixion:

33 When the [o]sixth hour came, darkness [p]fell over the whole land until the [q]ninth hour. 34 At the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?” which is translated, My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” 35 When some of the bystanders heard it, they began saying, “Behold, He is calling for Elijah.” 36 Someone ran and filled a sponge with sour wine, put it on a reed, and gave Him a drink, saying, “[r]Let us see whether Elijah will come to take Him down.” 37 And Jesus uttered a loud cry, and breathed His last. 38 And the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. 39 When the centurion, who was standing [s]right in front of Him, saw [t]the way He breathed His last, he said, “Truly this man was [u]the Son of God!”

Cordially,

191 posted on 03/05/2013 6:48:09 AM PST by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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