Posted on 02/17/2013 7:06:13 PM PST by Salvation
Catholic Ping!
He knew when to say when.
My faith would carry me.
Benedict is a quitter and I will never go back to church again.
We say a prayer every time at mass for the Pope and those who would take up the priesthood. I did not think we would want quitters and those who do not accept the task God presents them.
Never not once did I think the Pope would resign.
This is not a joke. I am no longer a Catholic.
According to other posts earlier he will still have been the second-oldest Pope over the last 1000 years (for which we have records).
You are always a Catholic and will have to answer for your statements at the moment of your death when you meet Christ.
While you are alive Christ is total mercy; at the moment of your death Christ is total justice.
Please go in and talk to a theologian about this....not just your parish priest.
On one of the threads, someone quoted a news story about how Benedict’s tailors had to downsize his vestments since he had lost so much weight.
I suspect he may die sooon. Then what will you say?
I’m curious - why quit Catholicism altogether, highp? I’m still confused by his leaving. But it seems Benedict isn’t quitting the Church, just the office.
You are correct. Not quitting the church — like a CEO who can no longer fulfill the demands of his office he has resigned.
He is not the first Pope to resign, either.
There’s a thread in the links below on St. Celestine. Scott Hahn’s reflections shed some more light on St. Celestine.
Pope still extremely Catholic (A look at how media cover Catholicism [and the Pope])
Conclave to silence at least nine tweeting cardinals
Pope Benedict's resignation and the mystery of the missing encyclical
Benedict, Dawkins, and the Fullness of Reason
Benedict XVI: Vatican II as I saw it
Benedicts renunciation and the wolves within the church
The Left Lobbies for a Liberal Successor to Benedict (and here is why)
Pope Benedict's Future Residence
SCOTT HAHN: Pope Benedict had a profound effect on this former Presbyterian minister
Is the Next Pope the One From John Boscos Dream? (Patrick Madrid offers an intriguing twist)
"Re-Elect Pope Benedict" - Eight more years!
Who can be elected pope?
The Legacy of Pope Benedict XVI: A commentary by Fr. Barron
More details on papal resignation, conclave (Vatican Press Office)
Church doesn't bend, but endures
Who Will Take Up the Keys of Peter (This is a MUST READ!)
Conclave & The Media: The Silly Season
Cardinal Bertone's Farewell Address to the Holy Father
"Thank You Let Us Return to Prayer": For the Last Time, The Pope Leaves the Altar
"Today, We Begin A New Journey" Liturgically Speaking, B16's Last Word
Vatican releases schedule for Pope's final days
Benedict XVI: Reasons Revolutionary
Some Interesting Tidbits From Todays Vatican press conference
Pope Decided to Resign After Cuba Trip, Vatican Advisor Says
Pope Says He's Resigning for the 'Good of Church'
Watch for the Anti-Catholics To Weigh in on the Papal Succession
The challenge Pope Benedict has left for his successorand for ordinary Catholics
Historian Notes Precedents for Papal Resignation
US Will Have Unprecedented Voice In Electing New Pope
Pope Benedicts Resignation and St. Corbinians Bear
Pope Benedict XVIs Musical Legacy
Benedict announces resignation and lightning strikes
DHS's curiosity piqued over Pope Benedict XVI's retirement and Catholic Prophecy
Prayers for Pope Benedict XVI
Pope Benedict's Devotion to Saint Celestine Signaled His Resignation from the Papacy
Cardinal Sodano to Pope Benedict: We have heard you with a sense of loss and almost disbelief
Pope's resignation invokes sadness, gratitude from US bishops
Pope cites waning strength as reason for resignation
Report: Brother Says Pope Was Considering Resignation for Months
Some Notes About the Upcoming Conclave
An Evangelical Looks at Pope Benedict XVI
Pope Benedicts Resignation in Historical Context
Virtually unprecedented: papal resignation throughout history
Pope Benedict XVI:a papal timeline
"I declare that I renounce the ministry of Bishop of Rome" [Full Text]
Pope Benedict's Address on Resignation of the See of Rome
POPE BENEDICT XVI WILL RESIGN AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, VATICAN PRESS OFFICE TELLS FOX NEWS
How you choose to live your life is your decision. Faith must come from within.
Pope Benedict made a wise and humble decision. There is no reason for him to continue the responsibilities of his office if age and ill health limit his abilities. I am moved by his honesty in admitting his human frailty. He is truly a holy man.
Benedict will continue to practice his faith. He is not quitting that.
You are the one quitting your faith. You are the quitter. I wish you wouldn't call Benedict a quitter.
Pope Benedict understands that he is not the Church, and that stepping aside to allow the Holy Spirit to bring forth another to take his place would be the best thing for the Church. Staying in office beyond the time his body and mind could be strong enough to withstand the attacks would not be the best for Jesus's Church, and Benedict knows that JESUS is the priority, not himself, as the person sitting in the Seat of Peter.
It was a selfLESS decision, not a selfish one.
The Catholic Church is not a cult of personality tied to the man who serves as Christ's representative on earth. Go back through history and see how many times the Catholic Church was truly in distress: times when popes were imprisoned, when two or three different men claimed to be the "real" pope, etc.
On top of all that, keep in mind that this is the first time in the history of the human race when people routinely live to the age of 90 or 100 years old. If Pope Benedict XVI was well aware that he had a medical condition that presented a serious threat to his ability to serve (think of dementia or Alzheimer's Disease, for example), would you really want him to continue serving just so that you wouldn't look upon him as a "quitter?"
I think it's time for you to grow up and take a good, hard look at yourself.
Well said.
Some friends and I were talking about the age of 75 when Bishops are asked to retire so that new blood can lead the diocese.
Benedict has served 10 years beyond that criterium.
I don’t think too many people are aware that when he was a Cardinal he received a pacemaker.
Pray for the lost and uncharitable.
They know not what they say.
Please take off the Catholic Caucus on this thread. Too many people have sent me private messages and want to post on the thread.
Thanks in advance.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2989544/posts
My husband sufferred with lung cancer for a few months and he knew that when it metasticized into brain cancer — that he had to quit.
I never thought of him as a quitter — just one that was willing to accept what was in his path.
God bless.
The Pope is Peter, “This Rock,” and is the focal point for the continuation of Christ’s Church. But the individual Pope is not the Church; otherwise, there would have been no Pope after St Peter.
We have had many bad popes, many indifferent popes, and a few saintly popes. We have had 265 Popes since St Peter, but the Church is still with us. Most of the popes died in office; some of the early popes died in the salt mines during the persecutions, some died at the hands of national powers, some died in disgraceful circumstances, and some died at the hands of corrupt clergy in their own households. But the Church is still with us.
Our Lord only promised that the Church, His Church, would endure, not that an individual Pope would be with us forever. BXVI is leaving for a good reason: I don’t know if you saw his last mass, but he had to be helped from point to point by people on either side of him and I doubt that he is going to live much longer.
I don’t know what medical problem he has, but it has become very acute in the last few months and he has changed enormously. He is frail and out of breath and is barely audible when he speaks. His mind seems to be just fine, judging by the addresses he has given in the last few days, but his body simply is not holding up.
Rather than let the Church grind to a halt while he dies, during a time when the Church has rarely been under more pressure, both from the left and from Islam, he has decided that the times are so urgent that someone physically capable of dealing with it must be called out of the ranks to lead the battle.
I think that is an honorable and good thing and God will reward his faithful servant as He should.
It seems that the man is blind in one eye and has little hearing in one ear. You would carry on?
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