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To: allmendream

“If your main point is that random forces do not result in predetermined outcomes (predetermined by God) then do you reject quantum mechanics, DNA shuffling, and randomness everywhere else it is observed? Or do you reject that the outcome of these events, which we observe to be random, are foreseen by God?”

Neither. See, you are pulling a little bait and switch there in the second sentence, because you are trying to equivocate predetermination with foresight. They are not the same thing, especially where this point is concerned.


125 posted on 02/12/2013 10:17:24 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
It is either one or the other by your criteria - either you reject randomness in nature - or you reject that God has foreseen (or predetermined, either will do fine) the outcome of these events.

So which is it?

What do you think is the difference? Do you think God has control of reality, or do you suppose God merely has foreknowledge?

The Bible says that the results of the casting of dice are “from the Lord” not just ‘known beforehand’ by the Lord.

126 posted on 02/12/2013 10:25:02 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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