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To: John Leland 1789
From an interview with Andy on the topic putting in complete context which the original article does not do:

In the sermon, you referred to the President as "Pastor in Chief." That phrase has caused a great deal of anxiety among people.

First, I understand the anxiety. If I had read that in isolation, it would give me concern as well. So I don't fault anyone. Apparently there was one pool reporter in the room, because they didn't allow any media. In fact, they didn't even announce who was speaking. This was as private as they could make a ceremony for the President private. The pool reporter wrote his or her story and mentioned that I said that, which I did. But of course, he or she didn't have time to give the entire context. So I don't fault anyone for the reporting or the confusion around that. But here's what happened.

In mid-December, the President went to Newtown [Connecticut], to the high school, and gave this address on television. I knew the President got there early. Each of the families who lost a child was taken to separate a classroom. So this would be 20-something classrooms. In the classrooms were the parents, siblings, in some cases grandparents. And the President got there early enough and went to every single classroom, and spent time with every single family individually.

It's still emotional for me to think about. As a pastor, I've walked into homes where people have lost children, teenagers. The grief and emotional toll it takes on a pastor to sit with a family, to listen, to be eye to eye—it's excruciating. The President had done that with every single one of those families before he walked into that auditorium to give what I thought was an incredibly appropriate and powerful message.

I'm sitting there on my couch watching this, thinking,How is he doing this? I would be exhausted after a single interaction with a family. All these classrooms. And he sits through all that, and then he gives his speech. I turned to Sandra, and said, "Tonight he is the Pastor in Chief, isn't he?"

[At the pre-inaugural service,] I knew that I didn't want to get up and just launch into a sermon. When you're in an environment where you have no personal connection with anyone in the room—and I certainly didn't—as a speaker, you want to find a personal connection. I thought,Well, here is something that I felt deeply and here we have all these clergy on this stage.

So I said something like, "Mr. President, I don't know the first thing about being President, but I know a bit about being a pastor. And during the Newtown vigil on December 16th after we heard what you did—I just want to say on behalf of all of us as clergy, thank you." And I added, "I turned to Sandra that night and said, 'Tonight he's the Pastor in Chief.'"

So that's the context. I wasn't making a declaration that he's our Pastor in Chief. But I can understand how that got reported.

9 posted on 01/29/2013 10:31:17 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

His explanation doesn’t make it any better. I wonder if he referred to George Bush as Pastor in Chief. After all, he spoke many times after 911 and to each family member. That was certainly a more trying time that this was.

He just sounds like a typical butt kisser. Can’t stand any of these so called Pastors.


11 posted on 01/29/2013 10:39:08 AM PST by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: Wyatt's Torch
"From an interview with Andy on the topic putting in complete context which the original article does not do: . . . &c."

I read it, but it doesn't change a thing. Andy Stanley is an apostate, believes on mixing the church with the world to draw a crowd and pretent its God doing it.

The man remains an Obamanite, and no Bible-believing Christian misses what wickedness Obama is involved in and how wicked he is.

Dr. Boys' point is that Andy Stanley is not Biblical preacher, and we have plenty of Biblical preachers as models to be able to discern the difference. Andy was wrong to pump up Obama's ego, when Andy should know enough about Obama's background to realize that the CT shooting and other shootings are largely the result of a public education system the type which Obama approves, first of all because it creates more Obamanites.

Obama didn't act like a "pastor" in CT ! He acted just like the Psuedos that he is.

15 posted on 01/29/2013 4:36:18 PM PST by John Leland 1789
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