You terrorize children with that, and many will grow into terrorized adults, frantically pushing the same load of hogwash on all their family. Imagine the anguish of some poor woman convinced her athiest child or husband will be tortured for all eternity simply for refusing to believe stories that came out of the same area of the world that gave us Islam.
Religion is what you get when you mix schizophrenia, psychological totalitarianism, and Amway. It's crazy, you'd better believe it, and you'd better sell it. Or you're gonna burn. And you call US rude? Pfff...
Atheism is a fool's errand: You cannot prove the non-existence of God. Agnostics are a more honest group, since they say they don't know OR that there is not enough evidence for them to believe in God.
Also, what if we who believe in God are correct? Suppose you are in a penthouse party, and I come upstairs and say that 5 stories below, there is a fire, and if you don't evacuate now, you will burn. Just because you don't smell the smoke doesn't mean that I am "terrorizing" you. I'm trying to help you. You may feel uncomfortable by what I am saying, but it doesn't change the truth.
“Imagine the anguish of some poor woman convinced her athiest child or husband will be tortured for all eternity simply for refusing to believe stories that came out of the same area of the world that gave us Islam.”
I could equally make a case that your argument is a stronger argument for the existence of God. Instead, I will therefore fix your sentence to reflect your post more accurately.
“Imagine the sorrowful state of some poor atheist woman, who has decided she is omniscient - therefore she is god. What a very small god she worships.”
God is love ... period. He is the source of life. While some fundamentalists may take God's message to ridiculous extremes, consider the alternative - a world without God. Many have tried to accomplish this goal; let's take a closer look at their legacies.
Here is a tentative list of modern mass murderers and the estimated number of people killed by their orders (excluding enemy armies). In many cases (notably Stalin's and Mao's cases) one has to decide how to consider the millions who died indirectly because of their political decisions. The Chinese cultural revolution caused the death of 30 million people (according to the current Chinese government), but many died of hunger. Stalin is held responsible for the death of millions by Ukrainians, but "only" half a million people were killed by his order. Khomeini sent children to die in the war against Iraq, but it was a war.
Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) | 49-78,000,000 |
Adolf Hitler (Germany, 1939-1945) | 12,000,000 (concentration camps and civilians deliberately killed in WWII plus 3 million Russian POWs left to die) |
Leopold II of Belgium (Congo, 1886-1908) | 8,000,000 |
Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1932-39) | 6,000,000 (the gulags plus the purges plus Ukraine's famine) |
Hideki Tojo (Japan, 1941-44) | 5,000,000 (civilians in WWII) |
Ismail Enver (Turkey, 1915-20) | 1,200,000 Armenians (1915) + 350,000 Greek Pontians and 480,000 Anatolian Greeks (1916-22) + 500,000 Assyrians (1915-20) |
Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) | 1,700,000 |
Kim Il Sung (North Korea, 1948-94) | 1.6 million (purges and concentration camps) |
Menghistu (Ethiopia, 1975-78) | 1,500,000 |
Yakubu Gowon (Biafra, 1967-1970) | 1,000,000 |
Leonid Brezhnev (Afghanistan, 1979-1982) | 900,000 |
Jean Kambanda (Rwanda, 1994) | 800,000 |
Saddam Hussein (Iran 1980-1990 and Kurdistan 1987-88) | 600,000 |
Tito (Yugoslavia, 1945-1987) | 570,000 |
Suharto (Communists 1965-66) | 500,000 |
Fumimaro Konoe (Japan, 1937-39) | 500,000? (Chinese civilians) |
Jonas Savimbi (Angola, 1975-2002) | 400,000 |
Mullah Omar - Taliban (Afghanistan, 1986-2001) | 400,000 |
Idi Amin (Uganda, 1969-1979) | 300,000 |
Yahya Khan (Pakistan, 1970-71) | 300,000 (Bangladesh) |
Ante Pavelic (Croatia, 1941-45) | 359,000 (30,000 Jews, 29,000 Gipsies, 300,000 Serbs) |
Benito Mussolini (Ethiopia, 1936; Libya, 1934-45; Yugoslavia, WWII) | 300,000 |
Mobutu Sese Seko (Zaire, 1965-97) | ? |
Charles Taylor (Liberia, 1989-1996) | 220,000 |
Foday Sankoh (Sierra Leone, 1991-2000) | 200,000 |
Suharto (Aceh, East Timor, New Guinea, 1975-98) | 200,000 |
Ho Chi Min (Vietnam, 1953-56) | 200,000 |
Michel Micombero (Burundi, 1972) | 150,000 |
Slobodan Milosevic (Yugoslavia, 1992-99) | 100,000 |
Hassan Turabi (Sudan, 1989-1999) | 100,000 |
Jean-Bedel Bokassa (Centrafrica, 1966-79) | ? |
Richard Nixon (Vietnam, 1969-1974) | 70,000 (Vietnamese and Cambodian civilians) |
Efrain Rios Montt (Guatemala, 1982-83) | 70,000 |
Papa Doc Duvalier (Haiti, 1957-71) | 60,000 |
Rafael Trujillo (Dominican Republic, 1930-61) | 50,000 |
Hissene Habre (Chad, 1982-1990) | 40,000 |
Chiang Kai-shek (Taiwan, 1947) | 30,000 (popular uprising) |
Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) | 30,000 (dissidents executed) |
Francisco Franco (Spain) | 30,000 (dissidents executed after the civil war) |
Fidel Castro (Cuba, 1959-1999) | 30,000 |
Lyndon Johnson (Vietnam, 1963-1968) | 30,000 |
Maximiliano Hernandez Martinez (El Salvador, 1932) | 30,000 |
Hafez Al-Assad (Syria, 1980-2000) | 25,000 |
Khomeini (Iran, 1979-89) | 20,000 |
Robert Mugabe (Zimbabwe, 1982-87, Ndebele minority) | 20,000 |
Bashir Assad (Syria, 2012) | 14,000 |
Rafael Videla (Argentina, 1976-83) | 13,000 |
Guy Mollet (France, 1956-1957) | 10,000 (war in Algeria) |
Harold McMillans (Britain, 1952-56, Kenya's Mau-Mau rebellion) | 10,000 |
Paul Koroma (Sierra Leone, 1997) | 6,000 |
Osama Bin Laden (worldwide, 1993-2001) | 3,500 |
Augusto Pinochet (Chile, 1973) | 3,000 |
Al Zarqawi (Iraq, 2004-06) | 2,000 |
Cambodia's Pol Pot began a radical experiment to create an agrarian utopia inspired in part by Mao Zedong's Cultural Revolution which he had witnessed first-hand during a visit to Communist China. He began by declaring, "This is Year Zero," and that society was about to be "purified." Capitalism, Western culture, city life, religion, and all foreign influences were to be extinguished in favor of an extreme form of peasant Communism. All foreigners were thus expelled, embassies closed, and any foreign economic or medical assistance was refused. The use of foreign languages was banned. Newspapers and television stations were shut down, radios and bicycles confiscated, and mail and telephone usage curtailed. Money was forbidden. All businesses were shuttered, religion banned, education halted, health care eliminated, and parental authority revoked. Thus Cambodia was sealed off from the outside world.
Throughout Cambodia, deadly purges were conducted to eliminate remnants of the "old society" - the educated, the wealthy, Buddhist monks, police, doctors, lawyers, teachers, and former government officials. Ex-soldiers were killed along with their wives and children. Anyone suspected of disloyalty to Pol Pot, including eventually many Khmer Rouge leaders, was shot or bludgeoned with an ax. "What is rotten must be removed," a Khmer Rouge slogan proclaimed.
Yes ... as evidenced by the above table, banishing God from society resolves all problems. (/sarc)
Don’t worry, we’ll pray for you!
Atheism is a very harmful religion. You are rude to come into Jim Robinson’s livingroom, and insult his religion and his guests who share that religion, while trying to promote your religion on Jim Robinson’s dime. That is really a trashy way to behave.
“Religion is what you get when you mix schizophrenia, psychological totalitarianism, and Amway.”
Your qualifications for this diagnosis would be?
The significance of Christianity coming out of the middle east as does Islam would be?
It isn’t a matter of whether we think it is rude. The issue is whether it is rude.
If I were a former business partner of your father, is it rude for me to enter your house and tell awful but “what I say is truthful” tales of your father, tales that you had never before heard?
And is it a crime for you to have let the community know that you think your father was a great guy?
A_perfect_lady
“If you dont like my views, stop following me around like a puppy.
And in particular, don’t start a conversation with me about atheism and then run tattling to Jim Rob like a school girl in hopes of getting me banned, when you are the one who brought up the topic.”
Riiight.... and don’t start a conversation about religion and then go running away when you’re proven to be in error.
What does it matter to you if I want my child to believe that there is a God and that Jesus is His Son, who was sent for my salvation?
Terrorized?
That is just over the top rhetoric which doesn’t match reality.
What difference does it make to an atheist if one believes in God?
You said that religion does harm. So does non religion.
There is no example of good done by powerful non believers, whereas there is ample evidence of enormous good done in the name of Jesus by people in power as well as ordinary men and women.
Personally, these billboards and such don’t offend me, nor do they concern me. I just am curious why religion has caused such hatred.
Again, it can’t just be because of some “harm” done by Christianity, as there has been much more harm done to humanity by atheists.
What you object to is not a problem of belief or disbelief because people who claim to hold no belief in God do as much damage in the world as those who do. Maybe more.
The problem is one of being human and if you believe there is no divine, then the only place you really have to look to is within yourself.
My parents and my drivers ed teacher taught me to drive on the right side of the road and to stop at stop signs and red lights. They told me I'd most likely suffer some pretty negative consequences if I didn't. I don't think I was brainwashed or terrorized; I just saw the wisdom in their teachings.