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Rude and Uninformed. A reflection on a recent billboard campaign by Atheist Humanists
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | December 20, 2012 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 12/21/2012 2:24:54 PM PST by NYer

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To: A_perfect_lady
Free Republic is pro-God and this article is posted on the Religion Forum on Free Republic.

If you do not wish to hear about God or religious belief or believers, then you can ignore the Religion Forum altogether by NOT using the "everything" option on the Free Republic browse option list. Instead, browse by "News/Activism." When you log back in, the browse will reset to "everything" - so be sure to set it back to "News/Activism."

81 posted on 12/23/2012 7:24:07 AM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: CityCenter
You better remember that the muslim world's murders count for your side of that particular debate, and not mine.

And considering your "divine" deity acts exactly like an Arab patriarch: jealous, autocratic, mercurial, exacting, and violent, it's clear that in creating a god, man has always looked only within his self for explanations of attributes and motivations.

82 posted on 12/23/2012 7:30:03 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: ILS21R
1.) No, I certainly don't feel like I lost anything. Muslims follow a Bible of their own, called the Koran (I thought you knew this, sorry) and they do pretty much what Christians do. Pick what they like and explain away what they don't. That is why all religions have so many conflicting (sometimes even warring) factions. And every side has "proof" they are right.

2. IIRC, your God told a man to sacrifice his son. This is exactly the sort of thing you'd see out of the Middle East, and a perfect precursor to the Jesus story. You see, in the Middle East, a sacrifice of a son is the ultimate, because men are worth so much more than women, and the father makes the sacrifice because he CAN. He's the father. That's how that culture is. The Bible is an absolutely accurate reflection of that culture. What I am saying (for about the fourth time now) is that no American need bow to that culture. Whether you're bowing to Mecca or Jerusalem, you're bowing to the Middle East.

3. I didn't dodge any questions about the universe, I told you (or whoever) to check out Dr. Lawrence Krauss's youtube talk "A Universe From Nothing." I am not an astrophysicist and I cannot put his lecture in bumper-sticker form for you. If I had a question about the Bible, would I be better off asking you, or looking for myself? Well, the same goes for you. If you have a question about how the universe could theoretically have come from nothing, go right to the person who has the theory and is willing to explain it to you.

83 posted on 12/23/2012 7:38:05 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: Religion Moderator; ILS21R; CityCenter; Wiser now; xzins
I'm sorry, I usually manage to avoid the Religious Forum. I didn't notice that's where I was.

To the rest of the people I was arguing with: I have been notified that this is the Religious Forum and you must be allowed to opine about atheists, and atheists are prohibited from answering in anyway, therefore I must withdraw from the field. I ask you not to ping me back to this thread.

84 posted on 12/23/2012 7:46:57 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady
"I'm talking about the everyday harm of brainwashing people, starting at childhood, to believe that if they don't buy whatever form of nonsense their church is selling, they'll go to Hell."

My parents and my drivers ed teacher taught me to drive on the right side of the road and to stop at stop signs and red lights. They told me I'd most likely suffer some pretty negative consequences if I didn't. I don't think I was brainwashed or terrorized; I just saw the wisdom in their teachings.

85 posted on 12/23/2012 7:48:27 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Murder is murder, matters not what the murderer believes or doesn’t believe. Again, this in a human problem, not a “god” problem. I would think both beleivers and non-believers whould be able to agree on this.


86 posted on 12/23/2012 7:57:24 AM PST by CityCenter (Compromise is the welcome mat to deception.)
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To: A_perfect_lady
You are welcome to post and answer challenges on the Religion Forum provided (a) you comply with the Religion Forum guidelines the main point being to discuss the issues and not make it personal, and (b) realize that you are not on equal footing in religious debate on Free Republic's Religion Forum because we are pro-God, pro-religious belief and pro-believers.
88 posted on 12/23/2012 9:00:01 AM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

If I’m going to be treated as though I am “not on equal footing” (and thank you for being honest about your attitude) then I’ll pass.


89 posted on 12/23/2012 9:11:38 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady

1.) No, I certainly don’t feel like I lost anything. Muslims follow a Bible of their own, called the Koran (I thought you knew this, sorry) and they do pretty much what Christians do. Pick what they like and explain away what they don’t. That is why all religions have so many conflicting (sometimes even warring) factions. And every side has “proof” they are right.

The Koran is a derivative of the Bible, and in significant cases, it differs from the Bible. It would be hard to argue that Muslim culture and Christian culture are similar. Christians may interpret particular sections of Bible differently, but they all agree that there is a God. It doesn’t take too much digging to find that there exists atheist infighting with your common belief that there is no God. Hmmm....

2. IIRC, your God told a man to sacrifice his son. This is exactly the sort of thing you’d see out of the Middle East, and a perfect precursor to the Jesus story. You see, in the Middle East, a sacrifice of a son is the ultimate, because men are worth so much more than women, and the father makes the sacrifice because he CAN. He’s the father. That’s how that culture is. The Bible is an absolutely accurate reflection of that culture. What I am saying (for about the fourth time now) is that no American need bow to that culture. Whether you’re bowing to Mecca or Jerusalem, you’re bowing to the Middle East.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

Any American that “bows” to a culture does it out of faith not because of some “religious law”. They do it of their own free will. You seem to be intolerant toward people of faith... almost afraid. It’s interesting.

3. I didn’t dodge any questions about the universe, I told you (or whoever) to check out Dr. Lawrence Krauss’s youtube talk “A Universe From Nothing.” I am not an astrophysicist and I cannot put his lecture in bumper-sticker form for you. If I had a question about the Bible, would I be better off asking you, or looking for myself? Well, the same goes for you. If you have a question about how the universe could theoretically have come from nothing, go right to the person who has the theory and is willing to explain it to you.

Regrettably for atheists no man knows what happened at the exact “moment” of creation of our known universe. In fact, they are still trying to figure out the creation of life on this planet.


90 posted on 12/23/2012 9:30:06 AM PST by ILS21R (Everything is a conspiracy. No? You're living in one.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Just to let you know it wasn’t me that went to the mod. It’s too bad you’re leaving. I won’t get to read your reply with regard to my comment about atheist infighting.

Oh well.

Merry Christmas!


91 posted on 12/23/2012 9:35:02 AM PST by ILS21R (Everything is a conspiracy. No? You're living in one.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I see nothing wrong with the author acknowledging that he has met God. We all have. The atheists don’t want to admit it, but He has entered every heart and we can meet Him there if we will bend our stiff necks. Mocking a believer and calling him a sociopath is getting dangerously close to mocking God.


92 posted on 02/23/2014 2:54:54 PM PST by Sane View
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