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creative Minority ^ | 11 Dec 2012 | Melani Manel Perera

Posted on 12/18/2012 8:05:31 AM PST by Cronos

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To: Persevero

Correction: that’s “Andrew” Bobola.


41 posted on 12/18/2012 12:32:08 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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To: Persevero

Persevero:

For the record, the Spanish Inquisition had no jurisdiction over Protestants. It dealt with heretical Catholics. Jews and Muslim-Moors, who had conquered southern Spain 600 years earlier were not brought before the Inquisition courts. After the Spaniards won the war of re-conquest, all Muslims were expelled from Spain. Jews were given several months to leave, with their belongings. Some converted to Catholicism and stayed in Spain, the so-called Conversos.

Now, there were wars fought between Catholics and Protestants, yes, but those for the most part occurred on the battlefield between armies. In places where Protestants were a minority, which would be for example Bavaria, there could be issues, and vice versa, in Northern Germany where Lutheranism took hold, or Geneva where Calvin took hold, etc, or in King Henry’s England, etc, if you were on the wrong side of the state religion, then there were persecutions directed at individuals, yes and those went on till the Treaty of Westphalia (spelling) around 1642 which allowed for basic religous liberty for Protestants in majority Catholic lands and Catholics in majority Protestant lands.

But again, the Spainish Inquisitions really had little to do with Protestantism. It had everything to do with the Muslims in Spain and those Jews who allied themselves with the Muslims against Catherine of Aragaon and her Husband, who I forgot, when they forged an alliance to finally drive out the Muslism from Spain and reunite it as a Catholic Country, which of coure today it it a shadow of its old self with secular liberalism dominateing its politics and culture just like much of the rest of Europe [England, Holland, France, etc]


42 posted on 12/18/2012 1:27:02 PM PST by CTrent1564
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thank you for the thank you!


43 posted on 12/18/2012 2:26:04 PM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Coldwater Creek

not really. it was there on the web


44 posted on 12/18/2012 11:18:30 PM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Coldwater Creek

I’m sorry, but when a b groupie is just taught distorted, incorrect statements, then it is hate-mongering...


45 posted on 12/18/2012 11:19:34 PM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Fiji Hill

well, actually the penchant for violence did play a critical role == the Spanish got allies from neighboring tribes who hated the Aztecs chasing them for blood sacrifices over and over


46 posted on 12/18/2012 11:20:28 PM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Persevero; wideawake

not completely. Let’s leave aside the philosophical piece for a while — many German Princelings saw this as a chance to fight against the German Emperor and set themselves up as independent with complete control over the temporal and spiritual areas of their people


47 posted on 12/18/2012 11:22:12 PM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Persevero; wideawake
I can attest to Perservero in particular when he says I hold no hatred for Roman Catholic -- he has not done anything but debate at any point and does not go into knee-jerk "dem Caflix" mode as long as I have known him on FR
48 posted on 12/18/2012 11:25:36 PM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Coldwater Creek; I want the USA back

Also, CC, note that while you yourself may not have the knee-jerk reaction (and that is commendable — thank you), the experience of many over the years is the opposite. Let’s hope there are more like you and we can have dialogue and debate, but not war.


49 posted on 12/18/2012 11:36:22 PM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos
The Spanish got allies from neighboring tribes who hated the Aztecs chasing them for blood sacrifices over and over

Good point. A historian that I read many years ago--I believe it was T. R. Fehrenbach in his book Fire and Blood: A History of Mexico (New York: Macmillan, 1972)-- wrote that had the Spaniards not come, the Aztecs would probably have been overthrown by the Tlascaltecas, Tarascos and other peoples they were repressing and raiding.

50 posted on 12/19/2012 7:51:52 AM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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