[Rashputin]

If it's idolatry to use the word "prayer" as it's been defined for centuries, then everyone who is Christian had better stay out of courts based on English common law. Either that or stop the stupid pretense that the word “prayer” means what they want it to mean and nothing else.

A prayer is something wished for or requested of another, you can pray for the judge to continue your judgment, pray for a specific redress, and so on, the same way you can call a barrister in England “your worship” and not be worshiping that individual as God or a god.

Folks who make up their own religion, though, like to start out by redefining terms to suit their own twisting of Scripture. Due to that fact they often can't understand a simple word like "prayer" because they've accepted the twisted definition their own personal religion finds useful in furthering their lies and their slanders of others.

Likewise, such followers of false religions cannot meet and accept Christ because they refuse to accept Christ as He is and insist that their version of Christ conform to their own personal religion so they can go along to get along in a pagan society.

[Brass Lamp]

If it's idolatry to use the word "prayer" as it's been defined for centuries, then everyone who is Christian had better stay out of courts based on English common law. Either that or stop the stupid pretense that the word “prayer” means what they want it to mean and nothing else. A prayer is something wished for or requested of another, you can pray for the judge to continue your judgment, pray for a specific redress, and so on, the same way you can call a barrister in England “your worship” and not be worshiping that individual as God or a god.

Your defense against the accusation that Catholics pray to and worship Mary seems to employ a nuanced usage of "prayer" and "worship" such that Catholics ARE praying and worshiping, but just not in the accused sense. Partial admission only leaves room for partial denial.

Folks who make up their own religion, though, like to start out by redefining terms to suit their own twisting of Scripture. Due to that fact they often can't understand a simple word like "prayer" because they've accepted the twisted definition their own personal religion finds useful in furthering their lies and their slanders of others.

Examples of redefined terms used in this thread would include "worship" and "veneration" and "imitate" such that veneration is a world away from worship whereas imitation is (according to the author of the cited article) IS veneration.

Likewise, such followers of false religions cannot meet and accept Christ because they refuse to accept Christ as He is and insist that their version of Christ conform to their own personal religion so they can go along to get along in a pagan society.

I didn't realize that Christ's own nature had become the issue. Are you about to admit that Catholic dogma is that salvation depends upon accepting a particular belief about Mary?