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To: greyfoxx39

I do not care what Mormons believe.


8 posted on 11/27/2012 4:31:17 PM PST by Hound of the Baskervilles ("Nonsense in the intellect draws evil after it." C.S. Lewiscrate)
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles

Well, how very special.
This is the religion forum, this is a religious discussion......sorry it perturbs you.


10 posted on 11/27/2012 4:43:22 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles; svcw; All
I do not care what Mormons believe.

This is where there's just an overwhelming disconnect between what some FREEPERs allege vs. the gaping gaps we see.

The Hound of the Baskervilles was Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's third of his Sherlock Holmes series titles.

Yet what was his first Sherlock Holmes' work...and what part did Mormonism play in that book?

Answer? The book was entitled: A Study in Scarlet...and Part II of the book delved heavily into Mormonism:

Yet despite Doyle's interest in Mormonism, enough to place it front & center in his lead Sherlock Holmes book, a FREEPER who portends to even derive his FREEPER "id" from yet another Doyle book comes on and claims a contrasting disinterest...e'en tho Doyle was hardly disinterested in Mormonism!!!!

Such irony!

From the above link: Part II: "The Country of the Saints"
The Mormon Nauvoo Legion, considerably overlapping with the Danites. The story flashes back to the Utah Territory in 1847, where John Ferrier and a little girl named Lucy, the only survivors of a large party of pioneers, lie down near a boulder to die from dehydration and hunger. They are discovered, however, by a large party of Mormons led by Brigham Young. The Mormons rescue Ferrier and Lucy on the condition that they adopt and live under their faith. Ferrier, who has proven himself an able hunter, is given a generous land grant with which to build his farm after the party constructs Salt Lake City. Years later, a now-grown Lucy befriends and falls in love with a man named Jefferson Hope. Lucy and Hope become engaged to be married, scheduled after Hope's return from a three-month long journey for his job. However, Ferrier is visited by Young, who reveals that it is against the religion for Lucy to marry Hope, a non-Mormon. He states that Lucy should marry Joseph Stangerson or Enoch Drebber—both members of the Mormon Church's Council of Four—though Lucy may choose which one. Ferrier and Lucy are given a month to decide. Ferrier, who has sworn to never marry his daughter to a Mormon, immediately sends out word to Hope for help. When he is visited by Stangerson and Drebber, Ferrier is angered by their arguments over Lucy and throws them out. Every day, however, the number of days Ferrier has left to marry off Lucy is painted somewhere on his farm in the middle of the night. Hope finally arrives on the eve of the last day, and sneaks his love and her adoptive father out of their farm and away from Salt Lake City. However, while he is hunting for food, Hope returns to a horrific sight; a makeshift grave for the elder Ferrier. Lucy is nowhere to be seen. Determined to devote his life to revenge, Hope sneaks back into Salt Lake City, learning that Lucy was forcibly married to Drebber and that Stangerson murdered Ferrier. Lucy dies a month later from a broken heart; Drebber, who inherited Ferrier's farm, is indifferent to her death. Hope then breaks into Drebber's house the night before Lucy's funeral to kiss her body and remove her wedding ring. Swearing vengeance, Hope stalks the town, coming close to killing Drebber and Stangerson on numerous occasions. Hope begins to suffer from an aortic aneurysm, causing him to leave the mountains to earn money and recuperate. When he returns about a year later, he learns that Drebber and Stangerson have fled Salt Lake City out of fear for their lives...

Re: Doyle's Depiction of Mormonism (same linked source above):
According to a Salt Lake City newspaper article, when Conan Doyle was asked about his depiction of the Latter-day Saints' organization as being steeped in kidnapping, murder and enslavement, he said: "all I said about the Danite Band and the murders is historical so I cannot withdraw that, though it is likely that in a work of fiction it is stated more luridly than in a work of history. It's best to let the matter rest".[4] However, Conan Doyle's daughter has stated: "You know, father would be the first to admit that his first Sherlock Holmes novel was full of errors about the Mormons."[4] Years after Conan Doyle's death, Levi Edgar Young, a descendant of Brigham Young and a Mormon general authority, claimed that Conan Doyle had privately apologised, saying that "He [Conan Doyle] said he had been misled by writings of the time about the Church."[4] However, in a preface to Volume II of The Complete Novels and Stories of Sherlock Holmes, Loren D. Estleman noted the implied criticism of the Mormon Church. He states that the story was not controversial at the time of the story's release, probably due to the recent memory of the Mountain Meadows massacre and the small membership of the church.

18 posted on 11/27/2012 5:12:27 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles

and yet you took the time to enter the thread you don’t care about and post to it. that’s just special.


26 posted on 11/27/2012 5:49:17 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles
I do not care what Mormons believe.

Then why did you post this?

Why not just ignore the thread??

31 posted on 11/27/2012 5:55:00 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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