[Nifster]

and as usual you take a single verse completely out of context and twist it to your meaning....unfortunately you miss the true meaning and context of Jude which is that unbelievers will perish. It is not because they have fallen into the way of Cain. It is because they do not believe......and of course some of the types of people listed include those who distort God’s words

[American in Israel]

Interesting perspective, I will take a further look. Would love to see you widen your picture of how the link is to the last days.

(Just thinkin of the Mathew 24, Luke and Mark comments that in the last days it will be like the days of Noah, Lot...)

[Thorliveshere]

Wow, this message has been coming up in my readings a lot lately.

[Carry_Okie]

I have spent the last two years translating Genesis 4 from Hebrew.

It wasn't a murder.

[boatbums]

I agree with the author about the "sin of Cain". Because he was jealous that God accepted Abel's sacrifice and rejected his, he murdered his own brother. The reason why God rejected Cain's sacrifice - though an offering of 'first fruits' IS part of the sacrificial ordinances of God - the offering that was required in this instance was a "sin" offering and "it is the BLOOD that makes atonement for the soul" (Lev. 17:11) Cain offered the works of his hands instead of what God required and he resented that his younger brother was right and he was wrong.

It is true that ALL religions in the world have as their common thread the works of man in order to bind himself back to God (the meaning of the word "religion"). The sad fact is that there are many "Christian" denominations that have strayed from the narrow path that leads to eternal life because they base salvation on what a man does over what a man believes. We are saved by faith apart from works because of God's unfathomable GRACE.

Thanks for the thread.

[ravenwolf]

Yes, i think Cain must have believed in God, other wise why would he have even given an offering.

Like the scribes and Pharisees in the days of Christ, they believed in a God but they believed in them selves more which lead to love of power and money, as far as they were concerned God was millions of miles away.

They were using God for their own purpose.

We can argue all day if some one believes or not but the scriptures say that even Satan believes.

Jesus could have been King if he had of went along with Satan, but he would not, in that case the religious leaders would have excepted him.

If the religious leaders would have excepted Jesus then they would have had to become servants, that they did not want.

Remind you of any of the great religious leaders of today?

[Bruinator]

“The so called “mainstream” Protestant churches have long since gone the way of Cain, for the most part, offering only a “social gospel” of good works, and “social justice”. Abandoning the gospel they were brought into existence to bear witness to, what other use could justify the church, other than a social serves organization?”

What does the author consider “mainstream” in this case. This is certainly not the focus with my (First Baptist) church.