[JCBreckenridge]

Well, I had a talk with the head pastor, a man that I used to greatly respect and he made up some gobbledigook about how it was just ‘pastors’ not ‘elders’. Which, is really sad to see.

I’d like to give myself credit for being prescient, but mostly I was just sad for all the souls that are going to be lead astray.

You can’t go home again - and it looks like your stuck with me! :) My boats are burned.

[Cronos]

well, my two bits -- the head pastor should admit that this will mean women as pastor, elders etc. it's an all or nothing vote.

You can't have women as pastors but not up. that wouldn't work. It's 0 or 1.