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1 posted on 11/18/2012 3:09:39 PM PST by NYer
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According to the first cut of exit poll analysis by the Pew Research Center, Obama's support among white Catholics fell to 40 percent--seven points lower than four years ago.

There's an interesting statistic we have not seen before.

2 posted on 11/18/2012 3:11:02 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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I am a strict-constructionist fallen-away catholic agnostic who couldn’t disagree more. The Constitution needs to be re instituted. Belief in this deity or that is meaningless as it pertains to our drain-circling republic.


3 posted on 11/18/2012 3:16:41 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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Here was today's gospel reading for Catholics:

GOSPEL Mk 13:24-32
Jesus said to his disciples:
"In those days after that tribulation
the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light,
and the stars will be falling from the sky,
and the powers in the heavens will be shaken.

"And then they will see 'the Son of Man coming in the clouds'
with great power and glory,
and then he will send out the angels
and gather his elect from the four winds,
from the end of the earth to the end of the sky.

"Learn a lesson from the fig tree.
When its branch becomes tender and sprouts leaves,
you know that summer is near.
In the same way, when you see these things happening,
know that he is near, at the gates.
Amen, I say to you,
this generation will not pass away
until all these things have taken place.
Heaven and earth will pass away,
but my words will not pass away.

"But of that day or hour, no one knows,
neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

I wish I could have recorded our priest's homily this week. It was as stark and dire as I have ever heard from a priest. He was bluntly telling us, correctly, that we are heading into a time of persecution, but also that this will be a great time for Church renewal. We will have to evangelize again, and starting with ourselves.

5 posted on 11/18/2012 3:21:15 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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“So Catholic leaders have often challenged Democrats to be more pro-life and Republicans to be more concerned about immigrants and the poor.”

Gentlemen do not discuss the unspeakable in public, and thus I ignore the above sentence content dealing with Democrats.

However, the part about “Catholic leaders” challenging Republicans to “be more concerned with immigrants and the poor” deserves a critical review.

“Catholic leaders” are assumed to live as examples of, and act in light of what G*d is said to have given Man as recorded in the Old & New Testaments. Therein is the line about ‘having the poor with you always’.

And, Jesus was supposed to have said that those who would not work would not eat. But, what did He know.

Unwilling to accept Divine perspectives on poverty and sloth, the activists/commies/queers in the Catholic Church decided that they were wiser than the alleged source cited in the Old/New Testaments and struck off boldly where not only did angels fear to tread, as even the angels were forbidden to tread that path.

Once upon a time, long, long ago, theft was theft. Likewise, that Man had to work after expulsion from the Garden of Eden was once accepted as the will of G*d. But, what did He know? Interpretation of the Scriptures led to exactly where was predicted.

“You shall teach these laws diligently unto your children” was considered to mean what it says, and people and theologians alike knew the difference between “teach” and “interpret”

Liberation Theology was, in essence, socialism. Socialism violates a certain Commandment regarding the Divine prohibition against stealing. Try as I have, I could find no phrase in that Commandment which can in any way be taken a justification or authorization to use government to steal for either oneself or another.

Along with rampant homosexual takeover of seminaries, the Catholic Church embraced “Liberation Theology” which was merely small ‘c’ communism with a flavor of theology.

Public rejection of the Church (but not the Scriptures) has become widespread, and another Reformation is occurring as we watch. Interestingly, the Soviets repressed the Church for nearly a century, and in the end, the Church is growing and the Soviet Union is gone (more or less).


7 posted on 11/18/2012 3:51:23 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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Social justice is bull crap. What it really means is Marxism, unions and confiscating money from people and companies and shipping it off to irresponsible “charities,” which year after year give money to third world dictators that continue to starve their people.

Can someone name one country that we’ve given all these aid and comfort to that has turned around? They all continue to be a mess.


10 posted on 11/18/2012 4:37:06 PM PST by TJ Jackson
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The republicans have won the Catholic 5 times in history, possibly 6 if 1956 is accepted.

They may win it once or twice more, but possibly never again.


19 posted on 11/18/2012 7:44:50 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb FischerÂ’s successful run in Nebraska)
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