Eternal progression after death is fun speculation for Mormons

Ogden Standard-Examiner ^ | Oct. 15, 2012 | Doug Gibson

[svcw]

:-) Have a good week brother

[Elsie]

I’ve two more funerals to attend.

It’s getting werrisome.

[Saundra Duffy]

My Jesus Christ is the One and Only Savior of my soul. He is my Judge, not you - thank God Almighty! Stop telling me to repent; you haven’t got a clue. And stop breaking my Savior’s Heart by saying He is not my Savior.

[Saundra Duffy]

My Jesus Christ is the One and Only Savior of my soul. He is my Judge, not you - thank God Almighty! Stop telling me to repent; you haven’t got a clue. And stop breaking my Savior’s Heart by saying He is not my Savior.

[Saundra Duffy]

My Jesus Christ is the One and Only Savior of my soul. He is my Judge, not you - thank God Almighty! Stop telling me to repent; you haven’t got a clue. And stop breaking my Savior’s Heart by saying He is not my Savior.

[Saundra Duffy]

Of course Jesus Christ is infinite! He is the Great Jehovah of the Old Testament and the Redeemer/Savior of the New Testament. He is the Creator. His infinite Atonement was the great sacrifice for all our sins, illnesses and afflictions. I have no idea why you believe anything else about me and my Savior.

Here is what we believe about Jesus (look in John Chapter 1):

Jesus created this earth.
Jesus created worlds without number.
Jesus was the firstborn spirit of our Father in Heaven.
Jesus was a God before He was born on this earth.
Jesus was the One who established the covenant with Abraham.
Jesus was the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Jesus appeared to Moses in the burning bush.
Jesus helped the children of Israel escape from Egypt and parted the Red Sea.
Jesus gave the Ten Commandments to Moses.
Jesus is Jehovah, the God of the Old Testament.

He is the same yesterday, today and forever. He is our Savior, Redeemer and Soon-Coming King.

“And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father) full of grace and truth.”

Please stop believing lies. Go to:
www.lds.org
www.Mormon.org

Or not; it’s a still a free country . . . for now.

[Tennessee Nana]

But our lil Eva acts more like Topsy...

[Gil4]

“Of course Jesus Christ is infinite!”

That wasn’t what I asked.

“Jesus created worlds without number.”

Interesting stories by C.S. Lewis and I understand Joseph Smith might have had a few imaginative speculations, but the Bible is strangely silent on the subject.

“Jesus was the firstborn spirit of our Father in Heaven.”

And now we have the answer to my question. Jesus was not “born” as a spirit; He and the Father (and the Holy Spirit) always were, always existed. His birth refers to the incarnation, and “firstborn” refers to rank, since he’s also the ONLY begotten Son of the Father.

[Elsie]

My Jesus Christ is the One and Only Savior of my soul. He is my Judge, not you - thank God Almighty!

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"He (Joseph Smith) is the man through whom God has spoken... yet I would not like to call him a savior, though in a certain capacity he was a god to us, and is to the nations of the earth, and will continue to be."

 - Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 8:321

 

 

"You call us fools; but the day will be, gentlemen and ladies, whether you belong to this Church or not, when you will prize brother Joseph Smith as the Prophet of the Living God, and look upon him as a god..."

- Herber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 5:88

 

 

"If we get our salvation, we shall have to pass by him [Joseph Smith]; if we enter our glory, it will be through the authority he has received. We cannot get around him [Joseph Smith]"

- (as quoted in 1988 Melchizedek Priesthood Study Guide, p. 142)

 

 

There is "no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth...no man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, for he cannot enter the kingdom of God"

- Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p.190

 

 

"I tell you, Joseph holds the keys, and none of us can get into the celestial kingdom without passing by him. We have not got rid of him, but he stands there as the sentinel, holding the keys of the kingdom of God; and there are many of them beside him. I tell you, if we get past those who have mingled with us, and know us best, and have a right to know us best, probably we can pass all other sentinels as far as it is necessary, or as far as we may desire. But I tell you, the pinch will be with those that have mingled with us, stood next to us, weighed our spirits, tried us, and proven us: there will be a pinch, in my view, to get past them. The others, perhaps, will say, If brother Joseph is satisfied with you, you may pass. If it is all right with him, it is all right with me. Then if Joseph shall say to a man, or if brother Brigham say to a man, I forgive you your sins, "Whosoever sins ye remit they are remitted unto them;" if you who have suffered and felt the weight of transgression—if you have generosity enough to forgive the sinner, I will forgive him: you cannot have more generosity than I have. I have given you power to forgive sins, and when the Lord gives a gift, he does not take it back again."

 - Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p.154-155

 

 

 

"It is because the Lord called Joseph Smith that salvation is again available to mortal men.... If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation,"

 - Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 396, 670

 

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They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work.

He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon.

He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood.

As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.

Who has made this so?

Have I?

Have this people?

Have the world?

No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it.

If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.

If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.

Can you pass without his inspection?

No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.

In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet.

They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent?

They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they?

 Brigham Young,

--JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, vol. 8, p. 224

[Elsie]

Stop telling me to repent; you haven’t got a clue.

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"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

[Elsie]

Here is what we believe about Jesus...

His dad has a body of flesh

He showed up in the woods and didn't say anything.

His blood is not adequate to forgive the sin of murder.

He will NOT be with most of the MORMONs when they get to 'heaven'

He did not intervene, like he did with the woman caught in adultery, and protect Emma Smith from heavenly threats.

[Tennessee Nana]

Please stop believing lies. Go to:
________________________________________

The Christian Bible...

Mormons dont believe the Bible Sandy...

Joseph Smith was a liar..
Joseph Smith as a god is a lie,
Joseph Smith as savior is a lie
Joseph Smith as a prophet of God is a lie,
Joseph Smith as the judge of all mankind is a lie..
The book of Mormon is lies...
Salvation through dead dunking is a lie..
Mormonism is lies..

www.lds .org tells lies
www.Mormon .org tells lies

but youve never said that...

What are you waiting for ???

Go to the Bible ...

The Bible is the Truth...

The LORD Jesus Christ is God..

In the beginning, God... Genesis 1:1, John 1:1

[Godzilla]

My Jesus Christ is the One and Only Savior of my soul. He is my Judge, not you - thank God Almighty!

Yet he cannot save you in your sins SD - ALMA 11:37 Have you done ALL you can do SD to earn God's grace?

Stop telling me to repent; you haven’t got a clue.

I haven't told you to repent - I've asked you IF you have truly repented - big difference because your mormon doctrine states:

DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS 58:43: “By this ye may know if a man repenteth of his sins—behold, he will confess them and forsake them.”

and -

DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS 25:15: “Keep my commandments continually, and a crown of righteousness thou shalt receive. And except thou do this, where I am you cannot come.”

So have you truly repented SD and do you keep the commandments continually. Sorry if that tweaks you and you want to blankety blank me - that is from YOUR doctrine.

And stop breaking my Savior’s Heart by saying He is not my Savior.

I'm asking if you have met the standard of perfection and sinlessness that mormonism demands so that he can be your 'savior'.
And yet you need to trust that you've pleased your husband enought to call for you through the veil - who's your savior SD?

[Elsie]