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To: raygunfan

“Let us note that the very tradition, teaching, and faith of the
Catholic Church from the beginning, which the Lord gave, was preached
by the Apostles, and was preserved by the Fathers On this was the Church founded;


Which bible does the Catholic Church read and where does it say to the Apostles to Change the Sabbath from the seventh day of the week to the first day of the week?

Where does it say to hail Mary mother of God,or how many our fathers?

Where did the (not be respecters of persons )go? how did the hirelings come to be Gods servants?

How did the religious leaders become from what Jesus called them, white washed sepulchers to leaders in his Church, where did the cardinals come from?

What happened to the words Jesus said about preaching the word freely, how can some one call them selves a slave for God if they are getting rich or even living high on the hog from doing it?


32 posted on 11/16/2012 7:46:10 AM PST by ravenwolf
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To: ravenwolf

raven, you are asking questions assuming that bible alone, sola scriptura is true.

you need to see that the early history, as recorded, even in the few (i can provide hundreds more on all aspects of the faith)quotes from these few church fathers, that there is the teaching church, sacred tradition, and the word of God, all combined to make a coherent whole.

Again, read the church fathers THEY WERE THERE, THEY WALKED AND TALKED WITH APOSTLES...when the foundation of the church was built on Peter.

Do you really think that Christ ascended back to heaven and dropped down a KJV with his words in red, saying ‘let the holy spirit guide you’.....HE BUILT AN AUTHORITATIVE CHURCH, with an orderly line of leaders, from Peter, and the first bishops, etc, thru their successors we see today.


33 posted on 11/16/2012 8:00:43 AM PST by raygunfan
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To: ravenwolf

Check out around Luke 1:28 where the angel Gabriel visits Mary and says, Hail, full of Grace, the Lord is with thee, blessed art thou among women.


114 posted on 11/19/2012 7:25:13 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG ... there is no such thing as coincidence)
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To: ravenwolf
Which bible does the Catholic Church read and where does it say to the Apostles to Change the Sabbath from the seventh day of the week to the first day of the week?

??

It's still Saturday; isn't it?




123 posted on 11/20/2012 4:28:45 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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