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To: Rashputin
"Knowing what is withheld is knowing the Holy Spirit is withheld and furthermore the following verses make it clear that this will be a delusion according to the working of Satan.

I’m not the least bit embarrassed at reading an entire passage rather than accepting what one ignorant person chooses to pretend is the meaning of a single out of context verse."

Is that your organization's answer also? I accept you do not think that the passage means that God will send a deluding influence, but you have claimed in one of your posts that you are not among those who spout "rote" answers, so please confirm to us that this is your organization's perspective. The RCC actually says, "And for this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they might believe what is false,..." does not mean that it is God deluding the unbelievers?

21 posted on 11/15/2012 2:45:25 PM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88
"Is that your organization's answer also?"

Oh, only for the past sixteen hundred years according to preserved sermons with a rather lengthy written study of the Holy Spirit that explains those verses along with others a mere eight hundred plus years ago.

22 posted on 11/15/2012 3:36:39 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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this is my point exactly, who amongst the ‘bible alone’ churches isnt being ‘deluded’ then???

who decided that church had it right and the other didnt?

that is my question.....this isnt supposed to be a crap shoot where folks all gamble on their own church’s so-called spirit-led view, and hope for the best.....

and no one will give a concrete answer.....


24 posted on 11/15/2012 3:53:51 PM PST by raygunfan
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