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To: Nowhere Man; Mrs. Don-o

No individual or entity can be “values neutral”. It is not possible, other than in perhaps fields of mathemtics or other very hard sciences. But even then the use of such knowledge will be guided one way or another by moral values or the lack or inversion thereof.

The idea that government can be values neutral is excatly what got us into the fix we’re in, or at least a good chunk of the reason. Values neutral means a vacuum, and vacuums do not remain empty for long.

How long does twilight last, between daytime and nighttime?


28 posted on 11/16/2012 10:34:36 AM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah
I see where you're coming from but that is why we have our system under the Constitution. I'd rather leave morality up to the locals at best or the States at worse to decide for themselves as long as those decisions do not violate the Constitution itself. I see myself as more of a Barry Goldwater type albeit I do not support abortion or Planned Parenthood.

I just come from a viewpoint that people are going to do what they are going to do, this has gone on for thousands of years. I do believe most people will do the right thing, you always have exceptions. The downside is that it is more in our faces now. Still, I come from the side where people need to be taught our values by ourselves as well as teach them the best we can to have good thought processes as well as responsibility and accountability. I'm not a libertine, if people mess up, they should be responsible for it and in many cases, that is part of the learning process as long as they do right and correct the wrong.

It is good to support good values and I do too, I just don't want to see us go as far as an American version of Saudi Arabia or Iran by codifying everything through government, especially Federal. Still, you might win some over but for the most part, it is basically preaching to the choir.

Most people today, and I guess I'm one right now, are more concerned if they will have a job tomorrow, a roof over their head, food on the table and keeping their car running. Also, losing our freedoms is big on the list too. Other things are at a premium luxury.
29 posted on 11/16/2012 2:25:41 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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