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To: daniel1212

I’m not an atheist at all.

I do not practice any religion, however.

Furthermore, I do not believe that my belief system is some type of universal law and that other belief systems are an offense to it.

From what I can see, you are a bigot who cannot accept that other may not see things as you do, and you are only comfortable in an echo chamber where no voice challenges your view of things.

I am also for God, Family, Country, and Liberty.

I am not for Mormon bashing.


57 posted on 11/15/2012 9:25:14 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.


66 posted on 11/15/2012 10:00:35 AM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: chris37
you are a bigot who cannot accept that other may not see things as you do,

I am also for God, Family, Country, and Liberty.

If you are for God, Family, Country, and Liberty then you are also a bigot in some other person's eyes.

89 posted on 11/15/2012 10:51:58 AM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: chris37
I do not practice any religion, however.

Not even your OWN??

195 posted on 11/15/2012 12:55:03 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: chris37
I am not for Mormon bashing.

Then don't do it.

But, do not try to keep ME from it; for....


Any place that a MORMON has the nerve to start spouting any of their HERESY will turn in to a BASH.

Bold
ANTIs
Spotlighting
Heresy

196 posted on 11/15/2012 12:56:08 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: chris37; reaganaut; Tennessee Nana; Alex Murphy; Charles Henrickson; SENTINEL; Colofornian; ...
I’m not an atheist at all. I do not practice any religion, however.

Whatever you live for is your religion, and whatever is your chief object of spiritual affection and source of security is your god. And i assure you that you operate out of some ideology, even if it is one that rejects any one ideology as supreme, or the certainty of truth claims.

I do not believe that my belief system is some type of universal law and that other belief systems are an offense to it. From what I can see, you are a bigot who cannot accept that other may not see things as you do, and you are only comfortable in an echo chamber where no voice challenges your view of things

Actually, what you fail to see is that the measure you judge by renders you a "bigot" as well, as by condemning an opposing view then you are asserting your own view is superior, and or the one that should be tolerated. You may not be certain that one can know truth claims for certain, but your censure of such assertions renders you intolerant as if you were certain. If pluralism is correct, in which exclusive truth claims and their certainty is rejected, then pluralism becomes the only accepted view, and is intolerant of those who hold otherwise.

In reality, groups such supposedly accommodationist groups such as the Unitarian church or those of the Baha'i Faith are "bigots," being intolerant of those who oppose their doctrine, even if it be a doctrine that opposes the premise of the authority of doctrine.

I am also for God, Family, Country, and Liberty.

But your God, Family, Country, and Liberty has a doctrinal basis, and which you see as true above others, even it is one that rejects definiteness (indefinite claims are supreme). Again, while you may claim that you do not see your truth as necessarily superior, yet by censuring those who use their liberty in a way that disagrees with you, as here, then you implicitly claim that your non-absolute view is indeed superior. I am not for Mormon bashing.

Perhaps not assertively, but in principle your ideology is intolerant of of the elitist exclusive claims of Mormonism which are overt and many, and you are obviously for bashing those who bash them, thus censuring based upon your accommodationist view, and call such bigots. However, with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged. (Mt. 7:2)

In the end, truth is exclusive by nature, and is intolerant. God is not telling one man to study his navel, and another to blow himself up in killing others, and "what is truth?" is determined by warrant, and we who look to the Son of God who gave Himself for our sins have found faith in Him to most warranted, and rewarding.

213 posted on 11/15/2012 1:16:46 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: chris37; daniel1212; All
I do not believe that ANYONE knows or has ever known why we are here, how we got here, or what our purpose is if any [Chris37, Post #51]

So...the ONLY person in the world who absolutely "knows" that there isn't anything ultimate to "know" purpose & origins wise is Chris...because he has ruled on what EVERY person who has ever lived "knows"...

Yet...

I do not believe that my belief system is some type of universal law... [Chris37, Post #57]

So, first he presumes to speak out universally on what people "know" -- including all people in history...and then he tells us with a straight face that these kinds of beliefs aren't "universal," after all...

Is Chris ever going to get some kind of consistent coherent belief system, and stop contradicting himself????

225 posted on 11/15/2012 1:38:08 PM PST by Colofornian (“...those outside the Church who say Lds do not believe in the traditional Christ. No I don't."-GH)
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