Well, you were fooled before.

What if you have been fooled again?

While I do believe in a creator, I think the the world’s religions are yet another attempt by mankind to control minds on a large scale basis.

I do not believe that anyone knows or has ever known why we are here, how we got here, or what our purpose is if any. One thing I do know for certain is that people fear their own mortality, and other people use that fear to control them.

You really do not know for a fact that anyone’s teachings are false. You do not know for a 100% fact that your teachings are false or not. They are your beliefs, and nothing more.

Well, you were fooled before.

What if you have been fooled again?

You really do not know for a fact that anyone’s teachings are false. You do not know for a 100% fact that your teachings are false or not. They are your beliefs, and nothing more.

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I was fooled by Mormonism because I was a teenager, trusted that the Mormons were telling me the truth and I didn’t need to research, I didn’t know the Bible, I was looking for ‘religion’ and didn’t know Christ as my personal Savior.

Now, I am older, I don’t trust anything anyone says without researching it myself (even my pastor), I know the Word of God quite well and I have a relationship with Jesus. Being Born Again really does bring a change of mind and heart.

I know what teachings are false or not, based upon the Word of God (and I have an academic background in it as well). Christianity can be defended logically and intellectually - Mormonism cannot.

If you make a statement of belief - it can be just that. But if you make a statement that you KNOW something, you are subjecting that statement to the rules of logic. I can do that, Mormons cannot.

"You really do not know for a fact that anyone’s teachings are false. You do not know for a 100% fact that your teachings are false or not. They are your beliefs, and nothing more."

Chris, I too was saved from the mormon cult after being brought up in it, only 5 or so years ago.

You are wrong, based on lack of personal experience, to put the values of what you know of different Christian demoninations onto mormonism. It is in a wholly different class. It is a brainwashing, all controlling, all taking, mind-numbing CULT. They do not allow you your own time, possession, speech, family or even thoughts.

God is not a bureaucrat, he wants our hearts. God has used the different denominations in the same way he used the different Apostles. Aside from obvious charlatans, each whith their own emphasis, each for the benefit of their own types of people. God is not a bureaucrat sitting up there with a checklist as the mormons teach, he wants our hearts.

Mormonism is based on fraud. The second FLDS/LDS "prophet" Brigham Young claimed that Jospeh Smith's re-translation of the bible was a fraud and made all the members be rebaptized into his breakaway sect.

Young taught that mormons were not Christians.

Young taught that they were the saviors of the earth.

Young taught that Christ was nto born of a virgin.

Young taught that Jesus was a polygamist.

Young and Smith both taught the cult would take over national government someday, then it would be "As the days of mohammed, Joseph Smith or the sword." They almost just won control over a second third of the federal government.

Nowadays mormons try to cover all of this up and claim they are just mainstream Christians.

They are free to believe what they want, but we are commanded as Christians to avoid the "leaven of the Pharisees". We are also commanded to have nothing to do with the works of darkness, "but rather expose them".

I do not believe that ANYONE knowsanyone knows or has ever known why we are here, how we got here, or what our purpose is if any.

Are you trying to break the record, Chris, for most self-refuting statements in a single thread?

ALL: Note how "absolute" Chris sounds in this statement.

At first, you'd think this is kind of a "humble" statement, that somebody is saying they are simply ignorant of ultimate purposes in life & origins of life.

But Chris adds a hard-core absolute onto this statement...He is not simply giving personal "anti-testimony," he makes the UNIVERSAL claim that it's beyond ANYBODY's ability to know these things.

So, here Chris seemingly objects to others religious absolutes; but look how quick he to make some sort of absolute omniscient claim here.

Any more self-refuting comments from Chris' commentary on this thread?

You really do not know for a fact that anyone’s teachings are false.

The Doctrine and Covenants

Section 132

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded 12 July 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, and also the plurality of wives (see History of the Church, 5:501–7). Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the historical records that the doctrines and principles involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet since 1831.

58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.

58 Now, as touching the law of the ^apriesthood, there are many things pertaining thereunto.

59 Verily, if a man be called of my Father, as was ^aAaron, by mine own voice, and by the voice of him that ^bsent me, and I have endowed him with the ^ckeys of the power of this priesthood, if he do anything in my name, and according to my law and by my word, he will not commit ^dsin, and I will justify him.

60 Let no one, therefore, set on my servant Joseph; for I will justify him; for he shall do the sacrifice which I require at his hands for his transgressions, saith the Lord your God.

61 And again, as pertaining to the law of the priesthood—if any man espouse a virgin, and desire to espouse ^aanother, and the first give her consent, and if he espouse the second, and they are virgins, and have vowed to no other man, then is he justified; he cannot commit adultery for they are given unto him; for he cannot commit adultery with that that belongeth unto him and to no one else.

62 And if he have ^aten virgins given unto him by this law, he cannot commit adultery, for they belong to him, and they are given unto him; therefore is he justified.

63 But if one or either of the ten virgins, after she is espoused, shall be with another man, she has committed adultery, and shall be destroyed; for they are given unto him to ^amultiply and replenish the earth, according to my commandment, and to fulfil the promise which was given by my Father before the foundation of the world, and for their exaltation in the eternal worlds, that they may bear the souls of men; for herein is the work of my Father continued, that he may be ^bglorified.

64 And again, verily, verily, I say unto you, if any man have a wife, who holds the keys of this power, and he teaches unto her the law of my priesthood, as pertaining to these things, then shall she believe and administer unto him, or she shall be destroyed, saith the Lord your God; for I will destroy her; for I will magnify my name upon all those who receive and abide in my law.

65 Therefore, it shall be lawful in me, if she receive not this law, for him to receive all things whatsoever I, the Lord his God, will give unto him, because she did not believe and administer unto him according to my word; and she then becomes the transgressor; and he is exempt from the law of Sarah, who administered unto Abraham according to the law when I commanded Abraham to take ^aHagar to wife.

66 And now, as pertaining to this law, verily, verily, I say unto you, I will reveal more unto you, hereafter; therefore, let this suffice for the present. Behold, I am Alpha and Omega. Amen.