Posted on 11/12/2012 7:29:12 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT
I put this in Catholic Caucus because I am interested in sober comments from fellow Catholics about ideas for dealing with the Social Justice activities in the Church.
“Catholic social ministry begins and ends with Jesus Christ,” he said. “If it doesn’t, it isn’t Catholic.”
Archbishop Chaput
Not long ago I explained to my priest that the term Social Justice had its origin in the Communist movement of the 19th century. Every dictator since then has used that term to put forth their ideology while they were subjugating the masses.
A REMINDER THAT THIS IS A CATHOLIC CAUCUS THREAD
I want to avoid the usual obvious remarks about liberals and hope to steer toward a more sober discussion.
http://catholicsocialjustice.org/about-us
That link is to the Hartford Archdiocese web site. Read the resumes. No discussion of Pro-life or Marriage in any of the newsletters.
The September Newsletter:
http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs054/1102356560606/archive/1110992188919.html
October 5-6
Franciscan Spirituality and Grassroots Organizing, St. Pius X Church, Middletown
they did their grassroots organizing ... for the elections.
The focus on the state legislative races, Social Justice at the state level. Obama was not an issue in CT.
Yes, the Church is anti-Socialism and Communism. The Holy Father was at Tubingen during the times of it’s heavy marxism and has fought these battles.
What is relevant today is that all Christianity has lost much of its role to government and we need to take it back to get the federal government out of our lives. It was a long slide into it and will be a long struggle out of it.
Social Justice, in its relatively new iteration, is heresy (liberation theology). Charity-by-government is oxymoronic at best, theft at worst. If social justice meant private individuals acting even in groups to help the needy or the poor, it’s charity. The government has no money of its own to contribute, only yours.
If bishops are teaching, anywhere, that government must fund the needy, they’re teaching outside their authority and against everything the church has preached throughout its history. As even the Catholic Church must have learned this year, all that ‘giving’ has impossible price-tags.
The more I hear the term, the more I wonder “WT* is ‘social justice’?”
Seems akin to someone rattling the bars of their cage, failing (or refusing) to notice the door is wide open.
“Social Justice” is NOT some government run, “tax the rich” scheme that relieves the us from our responsibility for individual charity.
Pretending that your desire for government managed “social justice” somehow trumps your responsibility to protect innocent human life, is an abomination in scriptural interpretation.
For details, read “Render Unto Caesar” by Archbishop Charles Chaput.
I was raised a Catholic and I must say these “Catholics” make me puke.
Social justice STARTS with the unborn babies and any Catholic that doesn’t believe a soul resides in the fetus in the womb is an abomination.
Visit Ann Barnhardt’s site; she recently posted a grisly photo of a baby that had been decapitated during an abortion. I was reading her posts and involuntarily saw it—I cried ‘til I thought I would vomit. My better half was disturbed that I might have seen it from an e-mail—when I got my breath back, I explained how I accessed it.
Although I protested abortion as a child with my mother quite a long time ago, it had been a long time since I have seen photo evidence of the “results” of such procedures.
I not only do NOT fault Ann for posting this photo I reacted to so sickeningly; I applaud her. More “catholics” need to see the results of abortion.
Understand me when I say damn the catholics that support such travesties...and DAMN the progressives that try to force others to subsidize it.
More? I have yet to have been to a RC church that does not do tons of works of mercy for the poor, but I have been to plenty that demand to ignore abortion, problem is, too many in the RC church think they are protestants and have serious lack of understanding of their own teachings ...
and as explained by JP II in:
http://www.priestsforlife.org/magisterium/evtext.htm
ENCYCLICAL LETTER
EVANGELIUM VITAE
Addressed by the Supreme Pontiff
John Paul II
to the Bishops
Priests and Deacons
Men and Women Religious
Lay Faithful
and All People of Good Will
ON THE VALUE AND INVIOLABILITY
OF HUMAN LIFE
Each parish should do a study group on this encyclical..
Ryan is impressive on the RCC issues...
Ya....these clowns chant “Social Justice”, while Obama’s HHS mandate is forcing the closure of all of the Catholic Charities, Schools, and Hospitals, which are the primary providers of all that IS “Social Justice”.
This Religion Forum thread is labeled “Catholic Caucus” meaning if you are not currently, actively Catholic then do not post on this thread.
This woman, the Catholic Contraception Lady ran a campaign with her platform as follows:
Graduate of Mercy Catholic High School, free contraception paid by the state, more state money for Planned Parenthood, endorsed by NARAL.
http://www.danteforstatesenate.com/index.php/en/
She defeated one of those right-wing Republican pro-lifers, 50.1% to 49.9%. The social justice folks held their org meetin in the district. The Capuchin Franciscans at the parish assist the event. See above.
They were successful. The Catholics in key neigborhoods, voted for her heavily.
“Justice, Peace and Ecology – This ministry is inspired by the love of the Gospel and by the example of Saint Francis of Assisi, and led by the tradition of Catholic Social Justice teaching. For more information, contact Fr. Sam at the Friary office”
http://saintpius.org/ministries/
I feel that the churches may be responsible for the steady decline of people being responsible for themselves. In the 40’s and 50’s the churches played a pivotal role in giving folks down on their luck a hand up and the people were very wiling to participate in that help. The Great Society removed the burden from the private sector and put it on government where it could grow into what it is today and the churches are now off the hook.
Is “Astronomy Picture of the Day” thread is only for currently active astronomers?
I never knew there was such a segregationist rule.
Wouldn’t want to taint the cult with an infidel.
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