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To: TaraP

The only people who call them selves Christians and are anti-israel are the Liberal Presbyterians. But then again, they believe Calvin more than the bible, so there you go.

True Bible believers realize the place of the older brother in the family of God, and that they are only adopted younger sons.


10 posted on 11/11/2012 3:24:29 PM PST by BereanBrain
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Friday, September 14, 2012 10:34 PM
Pope arrives in Lebanon with message of peace
By VICTOR L. SIMPSON | Associated Press – 12 hrs ago - 9-14-2012

“I have come to Lebanon as a pilgrim of peace,” the pope said upon his arrival in Beirut. “As a friend of God and as a friend of men.”

“He also praised the Arab Spring uprisings, which have ousted four long-time dictators.”

“It is the desire for more democracy, for more freedom, for more cooperation and for a renewed Arab identity,” the pope said.”

“”Looking at your county, I also come symbolically to all countries of the Middle East as a pilgrim of peace, as a friend of God and as a friend of all inhabitants of all the countries of the region, whatever their origins and beliefs,” he said.”

http://news.yahoo.com/pope-arrives-lebanon-message-peace-105452279.html

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Pope visits Lebanon amid Syria war, Libya protest - Reuters 9-13-2012

“Even the militant Shi’ite movement Hezbollah has hung banners along the airport highway greeting Benedict with a picture of him and texts in Arabic and French saying: “Hezbollah welcomes the pope in the homeland of coexistence”.

Nearby, the movement - which Israel and the United States consider a terrorist group - put up Arabic-only banners for local consumption with a different message: “Welcome to you in the homeland of resistance.””

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/13/us-pope-lebanon-idUSBRE88C1JR20120913

Pope Benedict arrives in Lebanon at time of Christian-Muslim tension - By Babak Dehghanpisheh, Updated: Friday, September 14, 11:15 AM

“The pope’s visit, his **fourth** to the Middle East, comes as Christians in Syria, Egypt and Lebanon are expressing fears of a threat from conservative Muslims emboldened by the sweeping changes brought about by the Arab Spring. “

“It’s unlikely that the pope will address the rise of Islamists in the region directly in public comments, analysts say. Instead, he is expected to preach a message of unity between Christians and Muslims. “

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/pope-benedict-visiting-lebanon-at-time-of-christian-muslim-tension/2012/09/14/dc9e3b92-fe57-11e1-a31e-804fccb658f9_story.html?wprss=rss_middle-east

Op-Ed: Expose: The Vatican - PLO Pact - Published: Thursday, February 09, 2012 11:08 AM

“Designs on Jerusalem are on the Vatican’s agenda, now that the city is in Jewish hands.”

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/11255#.T07m7XmV2So

HOLY SEE DELEGATION MEETS WITH THE PLO - Monday, January 30, 2012

” “Following the resumption of the bilateral negotiations between the Holy See and the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO), an official meeting took place at the headquarters of the Palestinian President in Ramallah on 28 January.”

http://visnews-en.blogspot.com/2012/01/holy-see-delegation-meets-with-plo.html

Bishop Cranmer: Let the Pope preside over Jerusalem

” Give the Pope Jerusalem, and he can govern it through a neutral administration, ensuring that both the Jews of Israel and the Muslims of Palestine obtain justice”.

“In April 2009, the Vatican signed the necessary agreement with the Arab League. On 12th of May 2009, the Pope walked on the Temple Mount together with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.”

http://ivarfjeld.wordpress.com/2012/03/29/bishop-cranmer-let-the-pope-preside-over-jerusalem/

Vatican and PLO Sign Pact Guaranteeing the Church’s Rights
By ALESSANDRA STANLEY - Published: February 16, 2000 <~~~~ (Note date)

“Seeking to secure the rights of the Roman Catholic Church in a future Palestinian state, the Vatican signed an agreement today with the Palestine Liberation Organization that would protect freedom of religion and the legal status of Christian churches.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/02/16/world/vatican-and-plo-sign-pact-guaranteeing-the-church-s-rights.html

The Pope’s Visit to Jerusalem and the Vatican’s Hidden Agenda - May 2000 <~~~ (Note Date)

“Replacement Theology”

“The Roman Catholic Church believes Israel’s right to be the Kingdom of God ended forever with the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple by the Roman Legion in 70 CE. When the Roman Catholic Church grew to world prominence, it claimed to be the rightful heir of the Kingdom of God. Rome (the Vatican) became the “New Jerusalem.” The long centuries that followed of non-Jewish control of their land seemed to validate Papacy’s claim. Then the rebirth of Israel challenged Catholicism’s “Kingdom of God” theology. But the boast of Rome to be “the eternal city” was completely deflated when Jerusalem—”The Eternal”—became the capital of Israel in 1967. Why?”

“The Vatican’s claim to be the “New Jerusalem,” if true, would be the fulfillment of a Biblical type and many prophecies. (Biblical “types” are spoken of as “shadows” which continue until their reality occurs. For example, Israel was to celebrate the Passover annually with a slain lamb. The reality of that type was the coming of Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God, which fulfilled that type. The slaying of the Passover Lamb came to an end shortly after Jesus’ death and resurrection. Until this day a lamb is no longer killed and eaten during Passover) The Roman Catholic Church for centuries has claimed to be the fulfillment of the type of Jerusalem as the capital of the actual Kingdom of God. In type-and-shadow theology, if the type reappears, then the supposed reality is not valid. Thus, the re-emergence of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital destroys the Vatican’s claim to be the “New Jerusalem”—the capital of the actual Kingdom of God.”

“Why does the Vatican act like a world political power, exchanging ambassadors with other nations? No other Christian church claims this civil government status. The only excuse the Vatican has to act as a world power is the claim that it is both the spiritual and the temporal Kingdom of God on earth, the New Jerusalem “

http://christiantrumpetsounding.com/Vaticans%20Agenda/Popes%20visit%20to%20Jerus.htm


21 posted on 11/11/2012 3:47:32 PM PST by haffast
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To: BereanBrain
Sorry I have to respectfully disagree with you, but, these so called " Churches " that have gone by the way side has nothing to do with the doctrine of justification by faith alone.
I would go on to say that they also threw out what Calvin believed in and the doctrine of justification by faith alone many decades ago.
What has replaced the doctrine of justification by faith alone in these liberal modern churches is " WORKS ".
They basically created their own doctrine and what they believe in apart from the basic teachings of the bible.
They have disregard the bible and allowed any old thing to creep in their ways, their thoughts, and what they believe in now..
So basically they have become huge " CULTS " that have nothing to do with Christ, his church, or God's written word.
If you have gone and visited these liberal mainline churches now they have a heavy emphases on " WORKS ".
34 posted on 11/11/2012 5:32:05 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: BereanBrain
True Bible believers realize the place of the older brother in the family of God, and that they are only adopted younger sons.

Care to elucidate? Who is this older brother?

47 posted on 11/11/2012 8:16:57 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: BereanBrain
The only people who call them selves Christians and are anti-israel are the Liberal Presbyterians. But then again, they believe Calvin more than the bible, so there you go.

It's hard to believe that i'm defending Presbyterians, but yeah, BB, your statement is wrong imho. even the PCUSA don't hold Calvin higher than the Bible, afaik

51 posted on 11/12/2012 4:48:16 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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