Posted on 11/11/2012 6:10:48 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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Wow! Jack Kelley hit the nail on the head once again! Believers need to take heed. No hand wringing from me about this past election. God has set the path. It’s our individual relationship with Him alone that we need concern ourselves with now.
Affirm.
As the Lord wept over Jerusalem forseeing its soon judgment, and who personally paid the price for the forgiveness of man’s sin - which began with the devil seducing a women with the victim-entitlement mentality (as in God is selfishly hoarding that which is His) and a “share the wealth” idea (Gn. 3, and which began in Is. 14) - so should we be weeping in our heart (at least) for the judgment that now is and will yet be, as a country and world increasingly follows men who are subtly (if not always consciously) working in ways that fosters the devil’s will being done on earth as it is in Hell, and who will not repent in order to give God glory. (Rv. 16:9)
“Israel hath cast off the thing that is good: the enemy shall pursue him. They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off. “ (Hosea 8:3-4)
“I have written to him the great things of my law, but they were counted as a strange thing. “ (Hosea 8:12)
“Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; “ (Acts 3:19)
“I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. “ (John 9:4)
Ping!
AMEN!! I believe the Lord is going to raise up His church in these last days to be a mighty voice! Now many will realize government isn’t the answer, many will turn to Him once again! Hallejuah!
Thank you! In these days of confusion and disappointment it is good to be reminded that “we are on schedule” in God’s timetable.
I've read several of his articles that were linked on various Christian websites and he has a habit of quoting scriptures completely out of context and thereby writing articles that are not scriptural in any sense.
However, the point of this article, from near I can tell, is that "No," we can't pray for a nation's salvation because the process of salvation is a personal experience, not corporate or national.
Yes, no, maybe?
There is a currently popular trend in the US where groups of believers have been offering prayers of repentance on behalf of our country in an effort to stay the hand of God’s judgment.
Prayer certainly can't hurt.
But the Lord had Ezekiel tell us this would not accomplish anything....
Proponents of repenting on behalf of our country use the examples of Jonah and Daniel to support their position.
It kind of depends where you're at, redemptive-historically.
What God commanded Ezekiel (and Jeremiah, if you'll recall) was pretty specific to the situation. The typological Israelite theocracy had reached the bitter end. They had ignored or abused all the prophets God sent to call them to repentance and fidelity, and now the application of the sanctions for disobedience of the Mosaic covenant was inevitable.
Likewise, the prayer of repentance on behalf of the nation that Daniel offered up at the end of Jeremiah's specified period of exile was one specifically called for in the law of God.
What Ezechiel did, and what Daniel did, is irrelevant. The United State is not in covenant with God.
Based on the Scripture in the article, each individual has to choose to accept Christ for himself. And it would appear that once God has decided to send judgment on a nation, the prayers of the righteous will not help that nation.
I love Jack’s writings. I read him on his web site and on the Rapture Ready web site. He has just completed a chapter by chapter study guide of the book of Revelation. I have run it off on the printer and am about to start doing the study with is thoughts on the verses.
This does go against so much typical church thinking.
I never did see how I could repent of someone else’s sins. It never made sense to me.
I can repent of believing the lies told me and participating in and perpetuating those sins in my own life. I can repent of not standing in opposition to evil and sin or speaking out more boldly against it.
But beyond that, I can’t repent of what others I don’t even know did.
Agreed.
I am awed by how I see God moving in me and the hearts of other genuine believers. He IS doing something. His hand is definitely moving.
I expect to see a great move of God just before He brings in the Tribulation.
I see it more as him saying that we can't repent of national sins, the sins of others besides us, and expect God to refrain from judging the US because of it.
I think we desperately need to pray for the salvation of souls in this country, and we do need to pray for godly leadership, and righteousness to prevail, because we are commanded to. Whether it's going to have any effect is another matter. But our praying is a matter of obedience, whatever the outcome.
In church today, our pastor prayed for obama for his salvation and for him to make good decisions that would turn the direction this country is going in.
Look at what has happened to every single nation in the history of the world, and you will find your answer.
I rather question those who say there will be a “raising up” of the church or a “revival” in these last days. Scripture teaches that there will be a “falling away”.
Do you see this nation “turning from their wicked ways”? I don’t. Both candidates this time supported gay marriage, abortion, and neither one was a Christian.
That apostasy is more related to the Tribulation, isn’t it, as opposed to just before the rapture?
Still, I do see God moving in the lives of many of the Christians I know.
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