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To: wmfights
That's about what I expect.

Ditto. Hence my previous post. When the issue is theology, we're a monolithic bunch of brain dead zombies who uncritically accept everything the Church says. When it's politics, we're a fractured, undisciplined rabble.

I'm thankful for the support of other Christian groups on the HHS mandate, for instance, but I'm also aware that for them, this is purely a "freedom of religion" issue, rather than a deep, non-negotiable point of theology as contraception is for the Catholic Church. They share our aversion to the secular uber state telling us how to practice our faith but aren't quite sure why the underlying Catholic teaching is so important. So keep "watching"; I expect to see Catholics walking the walk in a coming confrontation even as many Catholics shrug their shoulders and say "so what?" just as they did during the election.

The travesty of course, is that those doing the heavy lifting and bearing the pain inflicted by the state will be those who actually voted against the current incumbent. They'll cop it from all sides and already have. Freepers will scream "you deserve it.......you voted for him!!". The secularists and socialists will scream "hateful, right wing religious nuts".

So be it.

15 posted on 11/09/2012 9:19:13 AM PST by marshmallow (.)
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To: marshmallow
'm thankful for the support of other Christian groups on the HHS mandate, for instance, but I'm also aware that for them, this is purely a "freedom of religion" issue, rather than a deep, non-negotiable point of theology as contraception is for the Catholic Church.

This election makes it very clear that this point is a non-negotiable point for your church leadership, but your members don't care what they think.

We are not arguing theology. What we are looking at is a lack of discipline. We are already seeing the cries of the "moderates" that Pubs have to change their attitudes about abortion and the role of Christians in the party has to be reduced. I think the opposite is the case. We need a full throated conservatism that is not embarrassed to stand for GOD, family, country (in that order).

We will be in a minority for at least a generation with obamacare being the law of the land. We might as well strive to be Jonah's crying out to Ninevah.

21 posted on 11/09/2012 11:58:29 AM PST by wmfights
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