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To: Jean2; NYer
I am soo sick of the Catholic bashing. Don't you realize how the exit polling worked here? Any Tom, Dick or Harry who was baptized in the Church but hasn't been to Mass since they were 8 years old or the 'catholics' that only go to Mass on Christmas are Catholic about as much as Ackmadinnerjacket is.

The USCCB has been very vocal, and surprisingly united over the HHS mandate. Even the liberal bishops saw the light and every single bishop came out loudly against the mandate.

I'll grant that there are still liberal priests and bishops about and some use the fear of losing thier 501c3 status as a shield, but the priests and bishops I have heard have been pretty direct about this election. Don't speak of that which you don't know.

Cardinal Dolan said boldly (and it is looking clearer and clearer) that "my successor will die in prison... and his successor will die a martyr". The Pope himself said that the Church would become smaller, but it would also become stronger. There's a lot of fight in the Catholic organizations out there and they are leading the charge for life. Easy enough to use this opportunity to bash the Church, or you can join the fight in our common cause to defend the innocent unborn from encroaching and emboldened socialism. No matter the stripe or color, we can all take up the fight together. It is pointless to turn on your brothers and sisters. Unless you are relishing Tuesday's outcome.
27 posted on 11/08/2012 1:20:31 PM PST by Graing ("The power of wind, fire... all that kind of thing")
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To: Graing

AMEN!! My priests and Bishop were adamnat in the bulletins and sermons and paryers!! I was VERY happy.


33 posted on 11/08/2012 1:26:51 PM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Graing

AMEN!


38 posted on 11/08/2012 1:37:00 PM PST by frogjerk (Obama Claus is coming to town!)
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To: Graing
Any Tom, Dick or Harry who was baptized in the Church but hasn't been to Mass since they were 8 years old or the 'catholics' that only go to Mass on Christmas are Catholic about as much as Ackmadinnerjacket is.

The Catholic category is much more rigid and exclusive than the Protestant category, "Catholic" means members of that single denomination, of that single teaching, single culture, of people actually baptized into that church, and who still consider themselves as members of that church, which they are.

To be counted as "Protestant" they merely have to be Christian and not Catholic. They don't have have ever to belonged to any church, or even be baptized, or they can belong to any range of churches or denominations, Black, Episcopalian, homosexual, Obama's church, Southern Baptist, Lutherans, or whatever.

39 posted on 11/08/2012 1:37:53 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney not only reelected Obama, he lost the Senate,ruined the "down ticket", West, Mia Love, Brown.)
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To: Graing
The USCCB has been very vocal, and surprisingly united over the HHS mandate. Even the liberal bishops saw the light and every single bishop came out loudly against the mandate.,

As a Catholic I have to say I think you are wrong here, or at least are misinterpreting what the facts imply. Yes, bishops have fairly roundly condemned the mandate, but we have to ask why. They are perfectly comfortable when the parishioner is forced to pay for immoral things, and they usually support the party and politicians who do just that. What changed here was not the morality, but who got the bill. This mandate required that the bishops themselves pay for these things, and they resent that, not what is being payed for. They talk about doctrine only because it is a convenient way to get the faithful to side with them.

We as Catholics in the pews have to wise up and stop trusting people with fancy clothes. Most priests and bishops have no concern for the Gospel or morality at all. Bishops are CEOs and politicians for whom Christ is usually nothing more than a marketing tool serving to increase profit margins. In the American Church at least, sadly, our Lord has become nothing more than Ronald McDonald. I wouldn't trust these sacrilegious vipers who can't be bothered to protect the liturgy or treasury of faith under their care and only take action when something affects their earthly riches. It is time to be wise as serpents.

46 posted on 11/08/2012 2:31:13 PM PST by cothrige
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To: Graing

Thank you for this post.


47 posted on 11/08/2012 2:48:06 PM PST by Running On Empty (The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
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To: Graing

“The USCCB has been very vocal, and surprisingly united over the HHS mandate. Even the liberal bishops saw the light and every single bishop came out loudly against the mandate.”

They became very vocal and united when THEY had to pay for it; many of them were quite content to actually support ObamCare up to that point. When someone else was getting the bill, I certainly didn’t hear the theological arguments that came out when the Church was on the hook for the bill...


65 posted on 11/09/2012 4:16:34 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Graing
Cardinal Dolan said boldly (and it is looking clearer and clearer) that "my successor will die in prison... and his successor will die a martyr".

That was Cardinal George not Dolan.

67 posted on 11/09/2012 9:37:05 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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