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To: annalex
Dear annalex,

The argument you can make is not that you're not responsible for all the ills that will befall us, but that you believe that worse ills would have befallen us if Gov. Romney had been elected.

You are responsible for the ills you have helped bring about by your vote. You are not responsible for the ills that may have been avoided by your failure to vote for Mr. Romney. If Mr. Romney had one, I'd be responsible for those prospective (but not certain) ills.

From my perspective, the ills that you fear were prospective, possible, even quite possible. But not inevitable. The ills for which you are responsible are inevitable. They are, barring an entirely supernatural intervention by God (which He could just as easily accomplish with a President Romney) are now set in stone.

We will not repeal Obamacare.
We will not avoid ruinous tax hikes.
We will not see justices appointed to the Supreme and lower courts who might be inclined to overturn Roe. We will almost certainly see at least one or two conservative, anti-Roe justices replaced in the next four years.
We will have taxpayer-funded (that's you and me gettin’ to pay for them!) abortion.
We will see further destruction of our rights and liberties.

Once Obamacare is fully implemented, that, by itself, is pretty much game over. It changes our national DNA. We become one, big client state. There was a chance to turn back under a President Romney. There will be no chance no matter who is elected in 2016. Look at Great Britain, where, even with a badly failing National Health Service, the “conservative” party must now foreswear touching the NHS.

The same thing happened with Social Security and with Medicare. For those populations “served,” people quickly become unable to imagine life without them.

All these things are baked in the cake.

And they are ruinous, in and of themselves.

We must now go back to the beginning. We are now strangers in a strange land. We will need to spend generations, perhaps a century or two, trying to recover our culture, in part, through political means. There is no guarantee that we might succeed. In fact, I'd say the odds are long. The world is now guaranteed, though, to become more dangerous, more hostile, especially toward Christians, and for our nation to become a former great power, to the great, great detriment of ourselves and the rest of the world.

We can no longer preserve our culture and try to strengthen and rebuild. It is now lost, especially through the expedient method of politics. We are the Christians, again, in pagan Rome.

I never really wanted to be a martyr. But I may get my chance, yet. And as faithful Catholics, so may my wife and sons. Thank you very much.


sitetest

43 posted on 11/07/2012 12:45:57 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest; annalex
The argument you can make is not that you're not responsible for all the ills that will befall us, but that you believe that worse ills would have befallen us if Gov. Romney had been elected.

You are responsible for the ills you have helped bring about by your vote. You are not responsible for the ills that may have been avoided by your failure to vote for Mr. Romney....From my perspective, the ills that you fear were prospective, possible, even quite possible. But not inevitable. The ills for which you are responsible are inevitable. They are, barring an entirely supernatural intervention by God (which He could just as easily accomplish with a President Romney) are now set in stone....

....I never really wanted to be a martyr. But I may get my chance, yet. And as faithful Catholics, so may my wife and sons. Thank you very much.

I exhort you to read my post #38 again. And to knock off the blame game.

45 posted on 11/07/2012 12:57:54 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
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To: sitetest
We are now strangers in a strange land.

On that, I agree. But I see a benefit in at least seeing that for a fact.

the ills that you fear were prospective, possible, even quite possible. But not inevitable.

With the GOP dead set on the theory that to win elections we have to field the leftmost liberal from Massachusetts that still calls himself a Republican, they would have been inevitable, and worse, they would have been incorrigible. If not Romney himself then another GHW Bush, Dole or McCain after him would have handed all that down to you, and in a bipartisan manner, too.

Yours is the same mentality that gave us the national debt: if we only borrow another trillion, maybe that "prospective, possible, even quite possible" national default will not be our epitaph. Just like on fiscal policy, on social policy it is time for us to come for our money. Field a romney and loose. You have been warned.

46 posted on 11/07/2012 1:04:08 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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