I don’t knock Christianity because I think it led directly to the founding of the United States, which could not have happened, and will not be able to continue without it.
More power to the purity of Christian faith, by whatever demonation.
In that sense Jesus was moshiach. Though moshiach is not a concept of divinity.
I believe Jesus to have been a fine rabbi, though not divine for myriad reasons, one of which is that the Devil undermines monotheism. There cannot be One God for goodness and another for Evil. Whatever one wants to call it does not change that polytheistic effect.
If someone could point to one example of this so-called Devil, or Evil being at large in Creation before Man came on the scene, I’d be all ears and eyes. But unless some similar concept has been experienced by intelligent beings elsewhere in the cosmos...I’d yet be inclined to think it invented too, thus to pass off their own malfeasence on some agent other than themselves.
I see. But the Devil isn't a God, nor even a god, but rather a [self-]corrupted spiritual being.
If someone could point to one example of this so-called Devil, or Evil being at large in Creation before Man came on the scene, I’d be all ears and eyes. But unless some similar concept has been experienced by intelligent beings elsewhere in the cosmos...I’d yet be inclined to think it invented too, thus to pass off their own malfeasence on some agent other than themselves.
Is 14:12-14As you can see, his was the sin of pride, saying I will make myself like God.
How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star {Satan}, son of the dawn.
You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!
You said in your heart, 'I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain.'
'I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.'
Job 38:1-7As you can see, God is talking with Job, describing the creation of the world, there is the "sons of God" shouting with joy, but this is happening before Adam, so there couldn't be 'sons' in the plural sense. {Also, note the genealogy of Jesus in one of the Gospels refers to Adam as son of God.}
And Jehovah answereth Job out of the whirlwind, and saith: --
Who [is] this -- darkening counsel, By words without knowledge?
Gird, I pray thee, as a man, thy loins, And I ask thee, and cause thou Me to know.
Where wast thou when I founded earth? Declare, if thou hast known understanding.
Who placed its measures -- if thou knowest? Or who hath stretched out upon it a line?
On what have its sockets been sunk? Or who hath cast its corner-stone?
In the singing together of stars of morning, And all sons of God shout for joy,
So there's some period of time between the creation of the universe and the fall of Satan. ('Fall' not being a literal/geographical, but more like the phrase "fall from grace.") Do I know exactly when? No.
you are blind and it is not your opinion that matters. greater men than you believed