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To: Colofornian

You support the CNN blogger and repost your anti-Mormon spam.

Now *there’s* a surprise!

Not.

Believe me, we get you point now - for the hundredth time.

Give it a rest.


40 posted on 11/02/2012 5:34:06 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr; All
You support the CNN blogger...

The main problem with posters like you is that you don't allow context to define your words...like the word "support" in this case...

If you really want to have a clue about alleged conservatives "supporting" an out-and-out liberal, all you have to do is read this article: Reid Gets Warm Reception at BYU ...

But, of course, D-fendr, even though this article has been referenced numerous times on FR threads in the past five years, you haven't seem to care about this exact instance of "conservative" support of liberals...

Hmm...Now why would BYU invite Harry Reid to an all-student, all-prof guest speaker forum???

#1 Perhaps it was so Reid could tell BYU students: "I am a Democrat because I am a Mormon, not in spite of it."
#2 Perhaps it was because BYU officials knew that the BYU audience present on campus on that day (Oct. 9, 2007) would appreciate Harry Reid's open critique of Christians: "They [Evangelical Christians] are the most anti-Christian people I can imagine, the people from the Christian far right."

Hmmm...So the Mormon leadership that Mitt Romney bows down to was giving Harry Reid an open venue to slime Evangelical Christians, eh?

And did you, D-fendr, ever defend Christians against this onslaught from Harry Reid and BYU and the Mormon leadership? Or do you "support" Harry Reid's critique of Evangelical Christians?

Oh, and btw, just so we know how the BYU "faithful" received Harry Reid's message...From the above linked article, written by the Lds church owned Deseret News: At the end of his speech, Reid earned a standing ovation from a small percentage of the crowd and applause from the rest.

There...a perfect context for the word "support"...in the way you meant it, D-fendr...

44 posted on 11/02/2012 6:27:12 PM PDT by Colofornian (Some say "we're not voting 4 'pastor-in-chief'" --as if "gods-in-embryo" were divine only on Sundays)
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To: D-fendr; verum ago; All
You support the CNN blogger...

OK, since I spent the last post providing a better contextual example of how you meant to use the word "support," let's look at the CNN blogger's main point: I used to believe that the purpose of the religious right was to infuse American politics with Christian politicians and Christian politics. I no longer believe that. The purpose of the religious right is to use the Christian God for political purposes.

Do I "support" this belief of Prothero? (No)

But has the Christian right left itself vulnerable to critiques from the left as well as the right along these lines? (Yes)

And I said that in my first post on this thread...post #17: Reality: The Billy Graham Evangelistic Asso. left itself wide open to this attack from all sides by politically -- expedience-wise -- removing all cult references from its Web site immediately after Romney's visit to Billy Graham.

That's not "supporting" a given blogger; it's recognizing that Evangelical leaders have left themselves vulnerable!

Even a good coach of his own team will measure up his "weaknesses" vs. upcoming opponents!

In post #37, I pursued this line again: I don't see most of the Christian groups or individuals openly endorsing Romney giving any qualifications or caveats re: his Mormonism, do you? (So what else do they leave others to conclude?)

I was stating this on FR before ever hearing of this blogger...

So, rather than liberal-like, simply engaging in slime-by-association spamming, D-fendr, why don't you suggest how Evangelical Christian leaders should handle Prothero's questions...questions like:

* Did Mormons all of a sudden change their theology?
* Did Graham change his definition of a “cult”?
* Have LDS Church members repudiated the Book of Mormon as “another testament of Jesus Christ” or their view that the Bible is the word of God only “as far as it is correctly translated”?
* Have they accepted the Trinity?
* Rejected their teaching that there are many gods?

[Verum ago, perhaps you could also suggest how Evangelical Christian leaders should handle the above questions...because whether you have a CNN blogger, or some pew-sitter in Midwestville, somebody is going to continue to ask these & other similar Qs...& you can't just pull out D-fendr's handy-dandy slime-by-association FAQ response]

45 posted on 11/02/2012 6:41:49 PM PDT by Colofornian (Some say "we're not voting 4 'pastor-in-chief'" --as if "gods-in-embryo" were divine only on Sundays)
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