Two, when was the Bible completed?
Three, who was responsible for founding the Catholic church?
Four, who was responsible for completing the bible?'
Notice all of the questions (except perhaps #2) are more or less rhetorical, aimed at defending your organization. But, here goes...
1. If you mean the RCC, then as late as Augustine (circa 390AD) there were arguments about whether the so-called bishop of Rome was in charge. Sadly, even Augustine rolled over. But, this is approx. when Rome shoved its foot in the door. All the tripe about Peter is utter nonsense. Find any reference to him being named a "Pope" in the Scriptures and I'll send you to Rome all expenses paid. The Matt. 16 citation is simply Peter's confession that Jesus was in fact the Messiah of Israel, the Son of Yahweh. Notice, little rock Peter, massive bedrock Recognition of Jesus. Five verses later Jesus says Peter is acting like Satan. No Pope...sorry.
If you mean "catholic" as in "universal", then the universal "church" of Christ was formed as Jesus added the elect to His family. One cannot tell from the text the precise moment Jesus began to build His Assembly. It may have been while He was speaking. But, it likely now includes Adam, if he was among the elect, and Abel, possibly not Cain, etc.
The reference to Him creating His "assembly" and calling this a "Church" is yet another mangling of the text. There is no such word as "Church" in the text. If you don't believe me, read any decent Greek text and see for yourself. The term "assembly" was morphed into a Scottish word Kirk, and later church. Jesus referred to His gathered assembly of all believers. You are in this by virtue of Him choosing you...if you are among the elect.
2. The Bible was completed circa 91AD by the last entries of the apostle John. No exact date is available.
3. I suspect some pretty odd fellows are responsible and I'd like to see them brought to justice, kind of like the Benghazi fiasco. If you come across them, let us know.
4. The people responsible for completing the Bible are the Jewish writers, such as Moses, David, Solomon, the Prophets, and other Jewish men. The Jewish Scriptures do reference men who were considered Pre-circumcised believers (like Abram/Abraham, etc.), but they were not writers. The writers of the NT were the three Jewish gospel writers, Luke (the only Gentile writer), the Jewish fisherman Peter, James (brother of Jesus), Jude, and principally Paul, a Jewish Pharisee. Notice...no RCC. Let go of the ego grease.
1, So what faith was Origen? Tertullian?
“All the tripe about Peter is utter nonsense”
What do you make of Matthew 16:17-19 where Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ gives St. Peter the authority to bind and loose and gives him the keys to the kingdom of heaven.
“Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”
Straight from the NIV. Jesus gives the keys and authority to St. Peter.
“One cannot tell from the text the precise moment Jesus began to build His Assembly. It may have been while He was speaking. But, it likely now includes Adam, if he was among the elect, and Abel, possibly not Cain, etc.”
Actually, the bible is very clear on this. Pentecost is when the Church begins.
“If you don’t believe me, read any decent Greek text”
The greek word is EKKLESIA -> which we see in the english words ecclesiastical, “of pertaining to the workings of the Church”.
2. “The Bible was completed circa 91AD by the last entries of the apostle John. No exact date is available.”
Oh, so why then does St. Augustine cite that the Canon is closed then? Why does Origen discuss the canonicity of the New Testament books and debates the merit of each? The Canon was not set until Pope Damasus - the first bible published with the entire NT canon in the form to which we are now familiar is the Vulgate.
The best Greek manuscripts we possess from the period prior (Sinaiticus + Vaticanus), both lack certain NT books. If the Canon were indeed set in 90 AD, we would expect both Sinaiticus and Vaticanus to use the same set. They do not.
3. Answer the question. Who founded the Catholic church?
4. “The people responsible for completing the Bible are the Jewish writers”. Then why do you reject some of the books the Jews wrote?