Skip to comments.Archbishop Chaput: Democrats have ‘gotten worse’ on abortion because Catholics haven’t left
Posted on 10/24/2012 3:30:46 PM PDT by NYer
October 24, 2012 (HLIWorldWatch.org) - In a recent video interview with Catholic News Service, Archbishop Charles Chaput of Philadelphia said that the position of the Democrat Party on abortion has gotten worse over time because Catholics within the party havent taken a strong moral stand and shown a willingness to abandon the Democrat Party.
I think many of the Democrats have [taken] Democrat Catholic votes for granted because theyll go with them no matter what the party position might be on abortion, Archbishop Chaput said. Thats why the position of the Democrat Party has gotten worse, and worse, and worse as time goes on because Catholics havent abandoned them as theyve moved in that direction.
Chaput said that in the earliest days of the abortion debate in the United States, most people probably thought that the Republican Party wouldve easily embraced abortion, and that Democrats would have been the political party standing for the defense of life because of the large number of Catholics within the party.
Catholics have been historically part of the Democrat Party in great numbers, and I think really couldve stopped that great development movement if they tried, but they didnt in order to accommodate people from the other side of the issue, he said.
The Archbishop also said that you cant always trust the Republican Party to stand for the defense of life either.
You know you cant trust the Republicans to be pro-life 20 years from now. You cant let any party take your vote for granted, said Chaput.
Archbishop Chaput called on Catholics in the United States to put their Catholic identity ahead of their political party, and even their American citizenship, to stand united with the Churchs moral teaching opposing abortion.
Were Catholics before were Democrats. Were Catholics before were Republicans. Were even Catholics before were Americans because we know that God has a demand on us prior to any government demand on us, he said. And this has been the story of the martyrs through the centuries.
[Abortion] is a very serious issue that requires absolute adherence on the part of Catholics, the Archbishop said, and if we dont stand united on this issue were bound to failurenot only in the area of protecting unborn human life but in maintaining our religious freedom.
Including the bishops, who appear to have never read the Republican party platform before this election cycle, and who have refused to deny the Euchariast to pro-abortion politicians.
My aunt died a few years back at the age of 95.She was a devout Catholic...Mass every single day until,in her late 80’s,she was physically unable to do it anymore.We’d have spirited discussions about the fact that she always voted Rat.”Do you agree with homosexual marriage or abortion”,I’d ask.”No,I don’t” she’d reply.”Then why vote for Rats?”,I’d ask.”Because they give me my Social Security”.
Then how can they be catholic? How can you be pro abortion and be a catholic? Any catholics want to answer?
Certainly..... they are called cafeteria or smorgaasboard Catholics.
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I believe in the United States of America. But I don't believe in a representative congress -or in one man one vote -and I want to change the form of government to me being king and you being my minions. Am I an American? Hardly. Baptism does not a catholic make.
there must be some theological reason why Catholics do not get involved in campaigns. They discuss issues, but never are there for the battle.
I was raised a South Omaha Democrat. Think conservative democrat and when I became 18, I could no longer support a party that wasn’t in line with my values.
Granted, the Republican party has it’s challenges, but is more in line with my value system. My folks are die hard Catholics and to this day, vote ALMOST a straight Democrat ticket.
Hell, I have an aunt who is a nun and over a large order who thinks Obama’s is great. I have never been able to figure it out.
Believe it or not, it does!
"Roman Catholics, the largest U.S. church with a reported 69 million members, start counting baptized infants as members and often dont remove people until they die. Most membership surveys dont actually count whos in the pews on Sunday...."
....it is possible, for example, to be born Catholic, married Methodist, die Lutheran and still be listed as a member of the 1 billion-member Roman Catholic Church....
"...The Catholic understanding of membership is that a person becomes a member upon baptism and remains a member for life," Gautier said. "Whether you show up at church or not is not what determines whether you're a member."
-- from the thread When It Comes to Church Membership Numbers, the Devil's in the Details
Sure, they've adopted the Protestant doctrine of interpreting Scripture for themselves and become Protestants in all but name.
While 'Cafeteria Catholics' is what such folks are usually called they're just more non-Catholics who claim to be Christian. Just like the majority of those who claim to be Christian, they follow in the footsteps of Eve by interpreting His Word to suit themselves and in reality worship only their own, Most High and Holy Self.
So, if I say I’m a catholic but don’t believe in catholic doctrine, I can be catholic too?
I know the woman is now dead; but, maybe you should have asked her if she stopped getting her SS when Reagan was president. Or, did she not get her SS when GWBush was president. That might have made her think a bit more instead of just voting out of fear.
Don't be hasty, though, you might enjoy one of the tens of thousands of names non-Catholics have come up with. You might, for example, enjoy calling yourself an Emerging Homo or a Nondenominational Evangelical Fundamentalist more than you would enjoy pretending to be a Catholic.
But why stop with calling yourself something someone else already uses? Start your own church with a nice new name and maybe you can get enough followers to have your own mega church one of these days.
Something like, "Conservative Evangelical Pentecostal Self Interpreting Contraceptors", would probably draw a crowd so take you time and consider all the possibilities before you bother with pretending to be Catholic.
CEPSC? Nah, to start a church, you gotta have a snappy name, not something that sounds like a wino clearing his throat.
Something like, ‘Preachers Of Only Truth’?
There are many with that story. I always wonder why they think they won’t be going to hell. After all, isn’t that the bargain Judas made i.e. the lives of the innocent in exchange for money?