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To: albionin
"A man who believes in original sin is not. One is reason the other is faith."

Not true at all. The history of human experience provides a wealth of data to corroborate the doctrine of original sin. Blasé Pascal shows this with remarkable insight in his Penses. Further, I would affirm that the cosmological argument, the ontological arguments, the teleological argument and the moral argument all show that reality transcends the empirical. And there is absolutely no basis in logic or reason to assume it doesn't.

51 posted on 10/08/2012 12:00:55 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: circlecity

I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree.


52 posted on 10/08/2012 12:11:52 PM PDT by albionin
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