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To: sf4dubya

“You know, I had a whole post typed out to you with a bit more detail but it just now occurred to me that there is a simple answer.

JC isn’t the messiah for me (a conservative Jew) for the same reason he is the messiah for you...

FAITH.

I respect your faith. I know you can’t respect mine, but we all find out in the end. ;)”


You have faith in your traditions and heritage and don’t ask the basic questions such as... if Jesus isn’t the Messiah, why has there been no Jewish temple for almost 2,000 years since 70ad when the Romans utterly destroyed it as predicted by the Prophet Daniel? Usually, when this sort of thing happens, you can expect to be restored about 70 years later or at least told how to resolve it.

Not this time though.


60 posted on 08/13/2012 12:00:44 AM PDT by RaisingCain
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73 posted on 08/13/2012 1:01:59 AM PDT by moose07 (The truth will out, one day.)
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To: RaisingCain

I’m not sure why it gets under my skin so much, but you and others that feel compelled to confront faithful Jews on this website really get me angry. What chutzpah! You presume to interpret the Torah for us to prove us wrong? That is just ridiculous.

Maybe its just this: for 2,000 years, Christians have savagely persecuted us in the name of Christian love and in the name of Christ. Literally millions of my people have been brutally murdered, raped, robbed, vilified, exiled and humiliated by Christians. In many cases, my people were burned alive rather than accept Christianity. It’s very hard for me to respect your “arguments” after we have suffered so much by all your past evangelism.

Are you now going to say that you are much more enlightened than the previous 2,000 years of church leaders and devout followers? Those years of horrid persecution cannot be wiped away as doctrinal errors.

Hashem is One and his Torah is One. There is no other G-d or any “parts” of G-d. The whole eternal Torah, including the written and oral law, were given to the Jewish people by Hashem at Mount Sinai. That is the ONLY source of understanding Hashem, His prophets, His prophecies and the nature of the true Moshiach. Christian interpretation of the Torah is wrong. The notion that the people who rejected the Torah, who sought to “reform” the Torah, are now the people lecturing the faithful followers of the Torah on the meaning of the Torah, is preposterous, to put it kindly.

Please, don’t respond with one of your condescending lectures about how misguided I am, how I have to forgive and open my eyes to the truth, how my anger is self-destructive or clouding my understanding.

If you want to be a Christian, good for you. Have a wonderful life. But drop the idea of telling us what the Torah says and leave us the hell alone.


90 posted on 08/13/2012 6:33:21 AM PDT by JewishRighter (Anybody but Hussein)
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