Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: Moose Burger

“According with (http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt1009.htm) the name shall be “Pele-joez-el-gibbor-Abi-ad-sar-shalom”; “el-gibbor” is the part translated here as “The mighty God” and means “mighty man” or just “strong person”. Hard to sell that to Jewish autorities.”


Actually, Gibbowr is the word being translated “mighty.” The “’el” is the word being translated God. It is used in all these following scriptures (bracketed):

Isa 5:16
But the LORD of hosts shall be exalted in judgment, and [God] that is holy shall be sanctified in righteousness.

Isa 8:8
And he shall pass through Judah; he shall overflow and go over, he shall reach even to the neck; and the stretching out of his wings shall fill the breadth of thy land,O [Immanuel].

`Immanuw’el

Isa 8:10
Take counsel together, and it shall come to nought; speak the word, and it shall not stand: for [God] is with us.

Isa 10:21
The remnant shall return, even the remnant of Jacob, unto the mighty [God].

(This one is another Gibbowr’el, Mighty God)

Isa 12:2
Behold, [God] is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.

There are many more, of course. The ‘el is never used when it is translated “mighty men,” and is always used in this context. It is sometimes used to refer to idols, or even false gods, so the context usually determines if it is the God of Israel.

The Jewish authorities ought to learn Hebrew.


43 posted on 08/12/2012 10:45:03 PM PDT by RaisingCain
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies ]


To: RaisingCain

“The Jewish authorities ought to learn Hebrew.”

I can assure you they do. The JPS used by mechon-mamre is not the most authoritative. The Rabbi’s know Hebrew better than any christian authority, stick to your Greek.


52 posted on 08/12/2012 11:26:17 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies ]

To: RaisingCain

And the first answer is going to be, “why is the Name written just like that? If it were the Name, it would appear like yud-yud or something”. The second would be “aleph-lamed translates to a dozen things, including a half dozen prepositions. Did you just buy your first milon, boy?”. Another person would say, “One way to refer to G-d is to call him Almighty (and we call people that very rarely, if at all), but of course you know that”. Then it would turn into a tea and pancakes session. Half an hour later it would go back into topic, but only to discuss the count and position of every aleph-lamed relative to appearances of aleph-something-lamed. At least that’s usually how it goes.

“The Jewish authorities ought to learn Hebrew.”

Given that all of them learn hebrew since, like, five years old or something, I have doubts about that going to be a convincing argument.


290 posted on 08/13/2012 10:35:56 PM PDT by Moose Burger
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson