When He Stopped Believing [Mormon exodus underway]

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[Colofornian]

Faith is both a strong and a delicate thing. At the outset, if we are honest with ourselves we recognize that our religious faith is just that: FAITH. We have no proof of what we believe, of course, or else it would not be faith.

A short way of sizing up my last post: THE KEY CLAIMS of Christianity -- are things that had the Jerusalem Gazette been around circa 30 A.D. -- would have covered: The death on the cross of Jesus Christ; the empty tomb & claims of His resurrection while appearing to around 500 individuals...& claims of His ascension.

That's why Christianity focuses on the "Good News" -- the literal meaning of the word "Gospel." It's NEWS...not just "Good dogma based upon blind faith."

(And that was what I was addressing...the subtle insinuation that our faith is somehow "blind" & operating only in the dark)

The apostle Paul told the Corinthian church that if Jesus wasn't resurrected, that we were still in our sin and to be pitied among all men as having an empty faith.

No resurrection, no Christian faith.

No incarnational Jesus, no Christian faith.

[NCLaw441]

I agree with the points raised in our posts. That said, while the arguments and evidence work for you and me, if they were that undeniable all thinking people would be Christians. When humans are involved manipulation of facts is possible.

[Colofornian]

That said, while the arguments and evidence work for you and me, if they were that undeniable all thinking people would be Christians. When humans are involved manipulation of facts is possible.

Well, often have you heard of strong prosecutions by the D.A. resulting in either hung juries (comparable to spiritual agnostics & those who "rule against" the "conviction" of the Holy Spirit) or even acquittals???

[ravenwolf]

May I be so bold as to suggest that perhaps you misunderstand the Christian gospel?

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You might be right, but if i knew it better than the back of my hand i would still most likely say the same thing, my folks sent me to school to be a wit, but i only went half way.

But what i was saying is that religion has nothing to do with it, God knows if he is in our our hearts or not.

As for the things he told us to do like do unto others as you would have them do unto you, which is the works of faith and covers most of what he told us also has nothing to do with religion.