Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Banning circumcision is dangerous to your health
Asia Times Online ^ | July 2nd 2012 | Spengler

Posted on 07/02/2012 5:46:01 AM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

I will not address the scientific grounds for circumcision (which among other things drastically reduces the transmission of infections including AIDS), because your decree has nothing to do with science. Rather, as Heinrich Heine wrote in 1844 of your city of Cologne,

Dummheit und Bosheitbuhltenhier GleichHunden auf freierGasse; Die Enkelbruterkennt man nochheut An ihremJudenhasse. (Stupidity and evil mated here / Like dogs in the open gutter / You still can recognize their descendants today / By their Jew-hatred).

(Excerpt) Read more at atimes.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; History; Judaism; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: asgodmadehim; bs; circumcision; genitalmutilation; germany; godpolice; israel; justwashit; kristallnacht; nazi; neonazi; neopagans; pagan; pagans; quacks; spengler; swastikagenitals; thestateisgod
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-33 next last

1 posted on 07/02/2012 5:46:13 AM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

Great article. Spengler is always worth reading.


2 posted on 07/02/2012 5:56:02 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("The Lord will rescue me from every evil threat and bring me safe to His heavenly kingdom.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tax-chick
Good points ~ just thinking this sounded like another German trick to kill Jews, or chase them out of Germany.

Turns out that's what it is.

3 posted on 07/02/2012 6:16:34 AM PDT by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

I’m 56 yo. uncut and haven’t suffered any negative effects. Its natural and normal. Leave it alone, go natural!


4 posted on 07/02/2012 6:19:22 AM PDT by Outrance
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

The chart is a little misleading since it starts at a point in time when life expectancies were increasing. That is, even with a stable fertility rate there will be more people over 60 living today than in the 1950s.

The author’s primary point is sound. And of course, in the U.S., plenty of males who have no connection to the Jewish religion are circumcised for health and hygiene reasons. Yesterday’s medical orthodoxy is today’s taboo.


5 posted on 07/02/2012 6:24:49 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Outrance

I’m 60 and can say the same .


6 posted on 07/02/2012 6:25:02 AM PDT by sushiman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: sushiman; Outrance

There is a big difference between saying “That’s a bad idea” and “There oughta be a law”.


7 posted on 07/02/2012 6:27:07 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah

It certainly looks like it.


8 posted on 07/02/2012 6:30:49 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("The Lord will rescue me from every evil threat and bring me safe to His heavenly kingdom.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Outrance

Genital mutilation, which is what circumcision is - male or female - is sick. Doing it to a person without his or her consent, especially when there is no life-threatening emergency present, is evil.

The foreskin is deeply and densely innervated and serves several functions, including keeping the glans hydrated.

It’s not for no reason that you have so many outfits out there specialising in foreskin “restoration”.

The disease angle is pure myth. Sweden and Japan, with their near-zero rates of circumcision are far better off in STD statistics than many countries with near-total circumcision rates. Besides, the kind of risk we are talking about is so low, it is practically eliminated by good hygiene using soap and water.

One is more likely to contract a fatal disease through the consumption of animal products - pork, beef, etc.


9 posted on 07/02/2012 6:34:04 AM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
Any level of government having a say in the matter is stupid and just another example of how people now believe that freedom means being free to dictate to others.

Let parents decide just like they always have. If down the road their kid goes bad because of "foreskin envy" or "circumcision envy" it'll just prove the parents and the kid are both stupid. JMHO

10 posted on 07/02/2012 6:47:37 AM PDT by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Rashputin
Let parents decide just like they always have.

So you have no problem with African muslims doing FGM on their little girls??

11 posted on 07/02/2012 7:07:00 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1
ROTFLMAO, and being against circumcision is the same thing as being against all forms of surgery for any reason.

In short, I have no problem with someone pretending that FGM and circumcision are the same when they're obviously too stupid to know the difference. Such folks don't care about reality and truth if those things interfere with their agenda so seeing them make complete fools of themselves is always nice.

Female circumcision is an entirely different matter that no one in this country and most of the world cared about until they decided they could equate it with circumcision and that in reality very few people even care about now unless it helps them further their pro-Mooze Lame agenda. People who make the circumcision and FGM comparison need to either have the nerve to protect women by outlawing FGM without the transparent lie of equating it to circumcision or just admit they're cowards who won't confront the cruelty of FGM without first pretending that Christianity is as cruel as Iz Lame which is definitely not the case.

Playing "gender neutral" propaganda games instead of going after FGM is stupid, a transparent antisemitic bone thrown to Mooze Lames in hopes of getting a half dozen of them on record against FGM, and proof of either the gullible stupidity or the duplicity of the person who plays that game.

Circumcision doesn't removing a massive bundle of nerves the way FGM does and is now and always has been done as a means to help avoid disease.

12 posted on 07/02/2012 8:00:01 AM PDT by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Rashputin
ROTFLMAO, and being against circumcision is the same thing as being against all forms of surgery for any reason.

No, needed surgery is different. Circumcision is not needed...and I do know the difference between circumcision and FGM. Let the male decide if he wants to be cut at age 18...especially if his parents are doing it for religious reasons.

13 posted on 07/02/2012 8:10:21 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

http://www.cancer.org/Cancer/PenileCancer/DetailedGuide/penile-cancer-risk-factors


14 posted on 07/02/2012 8:30:59 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #15 Removed by Moderator

To: jacknhoo

The cases of penile cancer is almost the same in cut men versus uncut.


16 posted on 07/02/2012 10:13:40 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence - Christopher Hitchen)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: trailhkr1

Penile cancer: importance of circumcision, human papillomavirus and smoking in in situ and invasive disease.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15825185

Excerpt: However, 3 factors that did not increase the risk for in situ cancer proved significant risk factors for invasive penile cancer: lack of circumcision during childhood, phimosis and cigarette smoking. The high percentage of HPV DNA-positive tumors in our study is consistent with a strong association between HPV infection and the development of penile cancer regardless of circumcision status. Circumcision in early childhood may help prevent penile cancer by eliminating phimosis, a significant risk factor for the disease.


17 posted on 07/04/2012 5:18:14 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Tzar
"Third, modern circumcision has no health benefits anywhere there is access to clean water and anything short of astronomical AIDS rates. "

What a completely ridiculous and misleading statement.


18 posted on 07/04/2012 5:23:06 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

And, if anyone cares to look “past” the tip of their own, circumcision also has health benefits the their partners, too.

Male Circumcision Cuts Women’s Cervical Cancer Risk
Study Shows Circumcision May Help Reduce Spread of HPV

http://www.webmd.com/cancer/cervical-cancer/news/20110106/male-circumcision-cuts-womens-cervical-cancer-risk

Excerpt:Jan. 6, 2011 — Circumcising men can reduce cervical cancer risk in women, a new study shows.

The study involved more than 1,200 HIV-negative, heterosexual couples living in Uganda, where circumcision of male adults is increasingly encouraged as a means of slowing the spread of HIV/AIDS.

Half the men received the surgical procedure at enrollment and the other half were scheduled for circumcision after their participation in the trial ended.

Two years later, the female partners of the men who remained uncircumcised were more likely than the partners of the circumcised men to be infected with human papilloma virus (HPV) types most often associated with cervical cancer.

In earlier trials, Johns Hopkins University researcher Aaron A.R. Tobian, MD, PhD, and colleagues showed that male circumcision reduces HIV infection, HPV in men, and genital herpes.


19 posted on 07/04/2012 5:30:29 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #20 Removed by Moderator


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-33 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson