I did a little digging on Kevin Barrett, your fav non-Catholic prophet, and while I couldn’t find a lot about him at all, he does like to hang out at the Open Heaven forum, so I checked them out, and hoo boy do I not want to be associated with that group! Check it out...
http://www.letusreason.org/Latrain45.htm
These guys are so far from Sola Scriptura it isn’t funny. Latter Rain is a major source of error and spiritual deception, and the bottom line reason is they trust their own modern revelatory experiences, intuitions, and emotions, more than they trust the Bible.
As for the Eucharist, if we could all go back to how it was in the apostolic period and shortly thereafter, I’d be fine with that. There was no divinely sanctioned priesthood in the early church as there was in Israel. There was no worship of the physical elements of the Lord’s Supper, especially not under any theory even remotely like transubstantiation.
Just a gathering of simple believers in Jesus, who love Him in spirit and in truth, partaking of the prophetic symbols he left us of his great sacrifice, the bread and the wine, in remembrance of Him, just as He commanded us. There is no lack of love for God or for His Christ in any of that. Just true and faithful worship. And the Fathers testify of the same principle in the evidence you won’t consider.
But that’s not good enough for Trent. Trent requires the faithful believer to also subscribe to pagan Greek philosophy, looking to a weird inversion of Aristotle’s “substance versus accidence” categories as the way to invoke the literal physical presence of Christ in the elements, without affording the poor parishioner any evidence of the same, based on pure blind trust of a man who claims for himself the power to make this invisible miracle.
So please, I beg you, consider your recklessness in saying what Protestants believe about the Eucharist. You have us all wrong. You have wrapped the term “eucharist” in a meaning it didn’t have in the early days of the church, and even though I know you are well-intentioned, you damage the reputation of good people who love Jesus at least as much as you do, by suggesting we are somehow at odds with the Lord over His Supper.
You convict us without a trial, without even hearing the evidence, because the evidence, you say, is too lengthy. Is that judging with righteous judgment, as our Lord commanded? Would a real trial be conducted that way? I hope not.
But it is your choice. If and when you ever wish to look at the evidence, you can come back to this thread and review it at your leisure, or search out new evidence on your own. I long for the unity of the church too. But not at the expense of truth, and not at the word of prophets who can’t get it right, and whose prophecies, if believed, will lead many people into error.
Peace,
SR
“I did a little digging on Kevin Barrett, your fav non-Catholic prophet, and while I couldn’t find a lot about him at all, he does like to hang out at the Open Heaven forum, so I checked them out, and hoo boy do I not want to be associated with that group!
As for the Eucharist, if we could all go back to how it was in the apostolic period and shortly thereafter, I’d be fine with that. There was no divinely sanctioned priesthood in the early church as there was in Israel. There was no worship of the physical elements of the Lord’s Supper, especially not under any theory even remotely like transubstantiation.”
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I am happy you are taking notice of the Protestant prophetic
but think about your word “digging.”
Kevin receives teaching messages, they are tough messages.
Jesus is getting non-Catholic Christians ready to accept
the faith. And in such a loving way actually.
Jesus states to Kevin, OSAS, John 3:16, the “altar call
(though it maybe a moment of conversion)” do not save you...
justify you. Our Lord also states in Kevin’s messages the “prosperity gospel” is not true. Listen up Joel Osteen.
The “continual sacrifice” spoken of in Daniel is the
Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. You need a priest to offer
sacrifice. The Eucharist is true, God wants everyone to
believe He is humbly present, our God, He is there in the Eucharist. Think of the grace~~! Back in 07, I know I
repeat but it’s important. Jesus said to Cletus in a
prophetic message. You remain a “spiritual baby” without
the Eucharist. I’ll find the quote and post it again.
No use posting the repeated words of Our Lord in John 6 and the Eucharist prefigured in the OT (why Jesus speaks of the
Manna in John 6), people who believe in the heresy of ‘private judgment’ will reject.
I wish, I pray you would believe dear SR.