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To: what's up
I reiterate a point I made earlier...when you stand before God on judgment day you will not be justified in saying "my sin is your fault".

I won't. Then again, I'm not a Calvinist. I believe God has given me what I need. If I choose differently, it is surely my fault.

On the other hand, if I believe God has rigged the game so there is no way I can do anything other than sin, since he has not graced me, then I could indeed disclaim responsiblilty.

Birds gotta fly, fish gotta swim.

149 posted on 06/22/2012 7:50:25 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
I won't.

Happy to hear it. But no one will be justified in making the statement.

if I believe God has rigged the game so there is no way I can do anything other than sin, since he has not graced me

If a person has gotten as far as believing in God (and Christ's work) and having an understanding of what grace really is and is anguished about their condition without Him, he/she may very well be on the road to salvation.

150 posted on 06/22/2012 8:01:11 AM PDT by what's up
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