They made that same argument when Kennedy was running for president, that the Pope would be giving him orders. Didn't happen.
And if Romney's religious beliefs do not conflict with his duty to serve in accord with the Constitution, no problem. Same with any other politician.
We do not have a religious test for public office in this country. You may have, but that's you.
We do not have a religious test for public office in this country.
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No, anyone can run for office...
But nobody has to vote for them...
We are free under the Constitution to vote as we choose...
Its your wish that you get to tell me how to vote...
As someone who was a live when Kennedy was president, it wasn’t nearly the issue you are making it out to be.
However, Kennedy believed in ONE God.
Romney not only believes in many gods he thinks he will be one as well.
I have said this before, it might be well for you to know mormonism before you dismiss it so lightly.
Romney is in the highest level possible (inner circle) of the SLC lds, as is his family since the beginning of mormonism.
As a side note, there really is a big difference between a plumber and president of the USA.
And if Romney’s religious beliefs do not conflict with his duty to serve in accord with the Constitution, no problem
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Unfortunately Mormonism and the Constitution dont mix...
There is a conflict from the get go...
Mormonism “owns” the Founding Fathers...
all 56 were dead dunked into Mormonism as a reward for setting up America in accordance to the Mormon gods etc...
Mormonism is above the Constitution in Romney’s belief system...
and as a 15% temple Mormon he must choose his religion...
Who he is, his whole life and future is wrapped up in Mormonism not in America..
His allegience is to his “prophet” and not to the people of America, the “Gentiles” AKA “the whore of Babylon” ...
Charles you really must study Mormonism if you want to discuss what Romney believes...
Kennedy and Carter are apples and oranges to Romney...
Per this posted Rasmussen poll from 5.5 years ago (late 2006) [see Election 2008: 43% Would Never Vote for Mormon Candidate (Rasmussen Poll)]: The Rasmussen Reports survey found that 35% say that a candidate's faith and religious beliefs are very important in their voting decision. Another 27% say faith and religious beliefs are somewhat important. Ninety-two percent (92%) of Evangelical Christian voters consider a candidate's faith and beliefs important. On the partisan front, 78% of Republicans say that a candidate's faith is an important consideration, a view shared by 55% of Democrats. However, there is also a significant divide on this topic within the Democratic Party. Among minority Democrats, 71% consider faith and religious beliefs an important consideration for voting. Just 44% of white Democrats agree.
So…what % of the following groups found that a candidate’s faith and religious beliefs are an important consideration for voting?
(1) Americans: 62%
(2) Evangelical Christians: 92%
(3) Republicans: 78%
(4) Democrats: 55% [still a majority]
So, are you accusing, Charles, 62% of Americans and 92% of Evangelicals of having "religious tests?"
Or is it just possible that Evangelicals integrate their faith more within ALL areas of life, and Lutherans -- who straddle the Evangelical/mainline line -- tend to compartmentalize their faith more? [A false "secular vs. sacred" division]
I mean, it's no wonder that the average Lutheran doesn't see himself/herself as part of the priesthood of all believers and the ministry. (That's for the "professional clergy.")
All we ask Charles is that people to be a bit more astute as to these candidates' other-worldly worldviews...
Let's take your JFK example:
(a) JFK was a CINO (Catholic in Name Only) who had mini-orgies in the White House. Mitt Romney is NOT a MINO (Mormon in Name Only).
As the daughter of an Lds bishop said: Mitt…held…offices of…Missionary, Missionary Zone Leader, assistant to…Mission President…,…Bishop and Stake President…You cannot attain the “calling”…to serve as Mormon Bishop or Stake President unless you are a thoroughly entrenched and obedient Mormon… Source: Tricia Erickson: 'An indoctrinated Mormon should never be elected as President'
(b) Certainly, you have to concede the contrasts of what Romney has sworn an oath to -- vs. whatever Kennedy publicly confessed to?
Romney has sworn the "The Law of Consecration Oath." He did this in the Mormon temple (done before marriage/sealing in temple).
We already know what this oath consisted of: "You and each of you covenant and promise before God, angels, and these witnesses at this altar, that you do accept the law of consecration as contained in this, the book of Doctrine and Covenants [he displays the book], in that you do consecrate yourselves, your time, talents, and EVERYTHING with which the Lord has blessed you, or WITH which he MAY bless you, to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, for the building up of the kingdom of God on the earth and for the establishment of Zion." Source: What is an LDS Church/Mormon temple marriage/sealing? [Q: Please define 'Zion': The LDS PR Web site (lds.org) defines its primary meaning: "membership in the [LDS] church."]
For commentaries to even begin to make such a baseless outlandish conclusion, it would need to be proven that Kennedy took some similar oath to the Vatican. (You can't)
Besides, (a) above kicks in...Kennedy had a surface religious commitment; can't make the same conclusion about what "puppet" Romney would be -- in being beholden to the Mormon "prophet."
We do not have a religious test for public office in this country. You may have, but that’s you.
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Charles my religion is Christianity...
I thought yours was also...
However you just posted a vanity which contains informmation about your personal religious journey that is other than Christian...
So you may have another understanding of what the religious test for public office is all about...
My God came to die on a Cross and shed His blood there to set me free from the penalty of sin and to give me the freedom to choose and make my own decisions...
Which includes who I am going to vote for in secular elections...
and what I am going to base my choices on...
If I wish to use a religious test as a litmus qualification, there is nothing in the Constitution to stop me...
and everything in the Christian Bible to back up my choice if I narrow that choice down to a born again, Godly, Bible beliving Christian man or woman...
How do we KNOW the word didn't flow from Rome: "Better STOP them Commies in Cuba now; or things will get worse."?
‘Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it.’
George Santayana