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To: wideawake

The problem we have is that we have a First Hand observer, who dealt directly with the Son of God; and wrote his books - then we have 2,000 years in which scholars have had time to “pad” the Word of God with the Word of Man.

Me, I’m a big fan of the Dead Sea Scrolls - because they have slipped through time (written between 150 BC to 70 AD) largely untouched by the corruptions of man. It is in Man’s nature to exaggerate - even truths from God. The closest thing we can get to the origional message, is the origional manuscript - and barring that, perhaps a manuscript that hasn’t been touched for nearly 2,000 years.


18 posted on 06/01/2012 1:39:03 PM PDT by Hodar (Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see.- A. Schopenhauer)
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To: Hodar
The problem we have is that we have a First Hand observer

In Mark, yes. In Clement, no.

I’m a big fan of the Dead Sea Scrolls - because they have slipped through time (written between 150 BC to 70 AD) largely untouched by the corruptions of man.

This is an unrealistic idealization.

First, the Dead Sea Scrolls may be old to us, but the DSS texts of the Hebrew scriptures were copies of texts that were already a thousand years old when the DSS scribes copied them.

The DSS contains multiple copies of some texts, and they do not match.

Moreover, the DSS were produced by a zealous, and frankly strange, little community - they copied and recopied texts that they believed supported their favorite interpretations and views and did not have copies of much of the Bible, probably because most of the Bible did not reinforce their favorite interpretations.

The DSS are a prime example of "the corruptions of man" - in the sense that the DSS are highly edited and biased collections of texts.

The closest thing we can get to the origional message, is the origional manuscript

The autographs are gone forever. So we are left with a choice of which community has most believably preserved the message, and in a choice between the mainstream of Christianity and Judaism versus a tiny, extinct sect of conspiracists, the correct decision seems clear.

perhaps a manuscript that hasn’t been touched for nearly 2,000 years

That's a facile assumption. Inaccurate texts that people do not trust get left alone and forgotten - and then sometimes get found many years later.

Texts that people trust get used and used and used until they wear out - and then they are copied, to make a new book that the users of the old book will trust.

The age of a manuscript is important, but not prescriptive.

29 posted on 06/01/2012 1:56:14 PM PDT by wideawake
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