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VOTING FOR ROMNEY IS TO VOTE FOR THE DEATH OF AMERICA
May 6, 2012
| GoldenEagles
Posted on 05/09/2012 4:58:43 PM PDT by GoldenEagles
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To: roamer_1
Thanks for the information. Moderates usually end up in charge though (or the people who are in charge end up being called or being moderates).
You can only get things done in Washington if you have a really big majority in Congress, and those supermajorities don't last. A president may get one if the economy under the previous president was bad enough. But even if the White House has that kind of predominance in Congress it has to prioritize and aim at achieving what it thinks is most important. As you run down the agenda items you start coming across things that appeal to the party faithful but not to the rest of the country. Also, people start getting tired of politicians after a few years. The magic wears off. If the prosperity doesn't return, people throw the administration out, but if things do get better, it's back to business as usual, and people lose interest in politics. So the window to change things is small and any administration is going to concentrate on a few important things and try to do them well, rather than to advance a very broad agenda that won't get through Congress in any case.
Republicans or conservatives have five or six areas of concern, and no administration is going to be able to be effective in all the areas or satisfy all constituencies. Reagan came closest. Not to diminish his achievements, but one reason may be that conservatives were glad to have any victories at all. Bush I ran a more moderate administration and lost a lot of conservative support. You could say something like that in very broad terms about his son, but if you look more closely you can see real differences in how they did things. Bush II was able to hold the tax cutters and social conservatives his father alienated. He compromised on some things and ignored other conservative concerns, and conservatives faulted him for that, but he did go in a different direction than his father. Almost by definition, what a president does is going to be or look more moderate and pragmatic than what party or ideological stalwarts would like, but Bush father and Bush son had rather different policy mixes or flavors.
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posted on
05/13/2012 11:52:52 AM PDT
by
x
To: Katarina
Katarina says,
"I feel sorry for you, I truly do"Katarina, your statement rings with tragic irony, as you rush headlong into the shadow of godlessness that Romney casts upon the once bright landscape of the Republican Party,
To: All
Romney and Obama - Two Sides of the
Same Piece of Counterfeit Currency. - (Part 4) Fourth, here are another pair of passages
which properly characterize these two roads:
Here I have chosen the two passages from the episode wherein the Lord Jesus Christ is being tempted by the Devil. The Devil says to Romney and Obama, and to all of us in this hour, "All these things will I give thee if thou wilt fall down and worship me." (MT 4:9) To worship the devil means to raise falsehood upon a pedestal to worship and serve. Republicans are doing that when they swallow the lies the Romney machine has told about Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum. Moreover, if anyone thinks Romney can win, that is certainly an example of worshiping a falsehood. If people merely hope Romney can win, that is even worse, in hoping the purveyor of lies can be crowned with power and glory. But the Lord Christ speaks to our hearts, "Thou Shalt Worship the Lord thy God and Him Only Shalt Thou Serve" (MT 4:10) To worship God means to reject falsehood, and to raise truth upon a pedestal to worship and to serve. The skulls embedded in the left-hand gate, represent the death of allegiance to founding principles, the death of understanding, the death of appreciation, even the death of appreciation for truth itself, as Romney so clearly exemplifies, as well as a new found allegiance to the actuality of death, even as a national virtue, in the slaughter of the unborn. After all, the bodies of 55 million defenseless children murdered by the abortionists in this nation since 1973, are piled in a large heap outside the gates of this "Shining City on the Hill." And thousands more are thrown on the top of that heap every day. Thousands. The gates swing open, the bodies are piled on, and the gates swing closed, and everyone within the walled city, well they are fat, happy, and self-satisfied with their attainment of virtue, though they complain a lot about gas prices. Thomas Jefferson, speaking of slavery, revealed himself to be prophet when he said, "I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever." This principle is as relevant today, in relationship to the abortion holocaust, as it was relevant to the injustice of slavery in Jefferson's time. Jefferson's soul could smell the storm coming, as we can smell that storm coming today. Romney is as pro-abortion as Obama. The only difference being that he must hide his full enthusiasm for the dead babies of the unwashed masses to get the vote of (the most gullible of the) pro-life conservatives in the Republican Party. His love for firing people at the drop of a hat, is an outer expression for his support for abortion, for his deep respect for the "convenience" factor that legal abortion represents. Look at the statements that the NRLC has compiled to try to convince us that Romney is pro-life. There is not a single statement there that comes close to affirming the right of the child to life. Why? Because he doesn't believe it. If he believed it, he would have said it by now. Where is that statement from the 2008 presidential campaign? He's had numerous opportunities to tell us how deeply he feels about the child's right to life. Where is that statement? It does not exist. Where is that statement in this campaign? It does not exist. No one with a pro-life heart could have said the things he said during his Massachusetts' campaign. The pro-life conscience could never allow it. What Romney said about his support for abortion rights during his campaign for the Massachusetts Senate seat, and his campaign for the Massachusetts Governor's Seat represents the truth about who Romney is. The heart of Mitt Romney is to be found within that classic domain of secular selfishness that does not recognize that the child is Created by God, as the Declaration of Independence makes clear, and therefore has an inalienable right to life. According to the elite liberal crowd that has surrounded Romney his whole life, the woman has the right to do with her body what she wills. She's the "boss". He really relates to that. That's what he expressed, and that is the story of his life. It is a totally selfish life that was devoted only to the acquisition of personal wealth (by preying upon sick and injured businesses) that would allow him to acquire, in the footsteps of his father, personal political power. He has never lived outside of that particular circle. (Legal abortion has always been, and continues to be the most direct and cold-hearted attack on the Creator principle in the Declaration of Independence. A nation that denies freedom to tens of millions of real people, will have freedom denied to them. That is the Justice of God that no longer sleeps, but is stirring awake as we speak.) To vote for a heart devoted to the death of the unborn, thinking that one will gain there-by the prize of political power for your party, is certainly to follow Romney down that left-handed path, to fall for the temptation of the devil, who plays upon the lusts of this world to entice the people to turn their back on God. In that way do Republicans accelerate the nation's movement in the direction of national suicide. Indeed, abortion is the 800LB Gorilla in the room that the nation ignores at its imminent peril. Make no mistake. To vote for Romney would be the most blatant betrayal of God that a Republican soul could ever conceive of, and the Party (and the country) would pay the price for that betrayal in the long run. As more and more souls are corrupted in this manner, how can the hope of the American Dream ever be revived? In Part 5, we will take a look through the doorway to the right to see where it leads. (Previous) (Part 1) (Part 2) (Part 3) |
To: x
Thanks for the reply.
Thanks for the information. Moderates usually end up in charge though (or the people who are in charge end up being called or being moderates).
Your statement (and whole post) is a reasonable assessment, but I am afraid I will differ from you in tone:
I care not for either/any party anymore, and tend to see only the push/pull between liberalism and conservatism, and with little exception to consider, conservatism has had few wins, and most of those have merely been holding actions. In the mean time, liberalism continues to make great strides forward. Even though Republicans have held power in some degree for a couple of decades, liberalism has still picked up speed, and at a greater rate than the time between Roosevelt and Reagan, while Republicans were in the wilderness, to be sure. Not a single liberal stronghold has been permanently knocked down, and more are established year by year.
Due to that broad observation, and because the incontinence of liberal ideology is being even yet proclaimed to a largely unsympathetic populace, I have come to the conclusion that the successes of liberalism on the battlefield are not due to any innate goodness held therein, but rather due to a lack of opposition offered up to withstand it - Namely, that the Republicans offer little more than lip service to their conservative platform and base, while by hook or by crook, by ignorance or acquiescence, by whatever the cause, they continually step aside from the fight and let the liberal forces rumble on through.
In fact, I find it to be more insidious than that - Perhaps I have taken to wearing the chinstrap on my tinfoil hat a notch too tight, but the evidence of decades seem to prove collusion more than ignorance. Therefore, I do not see these 'moderates' as being moderate at all, and the republican/democrat parties seem to be two legs of an unrelenting liberal leviathan striding ever forward toward our very near demise.
With that mindset to the fore, I must rise up against this folly of pragmatism - It is the bane of Conservatism. Screw the moderates, I say. We had better ante up and go all in, or we will be moderated into oblivion.
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posted on
05/13/2012 8:35:31 PM PDT
by
roamer_1
(Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
To: All
Understanding Why America Lost
the Vietnam War, is Relevant to
the Decision Whether or Not to
Vote for Willard M. RomneyThere are two forces at work in this world.
On the one hand, you have the forces of Darkness, of Evil, who have a relentless hatred for God, and who are committed to the enslavement of the people. Communism is on that side. As they are Atheistic to the core. And demon driven totally.
(Know yourself, and know the enemy, this is the key to winning any battle. Jesus Christ taught that the demonic realm exists, and America will continue losing to that enemy as long as it refuses to confront it, and to devise strategies to defeat it.)
On the other hand, you have the Forces of Light, of good, who have a relentless Love for God, and who are committed to the setting the people free. America is on that side, a nation built upon the Judeo-Christian heritage, a nation sponsored by God, for a purpose, of becoming both a beacon of physical freedom and spiritual freedom for the planet.
These two forces came head to head in the battle over the freedom of the South Vietnamese people. America on one side, the Communists on the other.
Populations driven by the hatred of the darkside, do not require prayer to win wars. The demonic forces have the power to project powerful momentums of hatred into those they are manipulating. They don't ask permission, they just do it.
Populations inspired by Love for the Light, DO require prayer to win wars. This is because the dark side of life is always trying to tear down the morale of the believers. To fight for liberty, you need a strong love for liberty, a love so strong, that it will overcome the downward pull of the darkside.
The Angels of God provide the support the people need to keep their inspiration level high, their determination level high. They have the power to block the darkside influence upon the people who are fighting for freedom. But these angels cannot intercede in the lives of the people without their persmission, as God is the respecter of freewill.
The demon realm is the domain of the slavemaster. They enslave people to the strong currents of hatred. And they don't ask for permission. This realm manipulates and control embodied humanity through the power of hatred.
The heavenly realm is the domain of the liberator. The Angels associated with that, have the power to set the people free from the dark side manipulation and control, giving them the will to perservere through great hardship to win battles for the victory of freedom. This is the story of the American Revolution. This is the story of World War II.
Ever since the institution of school prayer was abolished, the Angels of God were not authorized to help in this important area, they could not block the waves of hatred that drove the forces of communism relentlessly forward, and they could not block the energies of the darkside from destroying the will of the American people to fight.
This explains it, and it explains why are are losing in Afghanistan today against a third world insurgency. The Angels of God are not authorized now, since America has been completely cut off from the resources of Divine Providence, to block the relentless waves of hatred that drive the Taliban forward towards the goal of re-enslaving the Afghan people. And neither can the Angels of God intercede to shore up the morale of our forces, who stand by helplessly watching all the gains made by their brothers-in-arms being flushed down the toilet by a leadership that has totally lost hope, and begs the enemy for a negotiated settlement, even while we run for the exit. It is a really sick situation.
This explains completely why the atmosphere in Afghanistan has deteriorated in the most drastic manner ever since the American people elected Barrack Obama, and ever since the American people allowed the inclusion of homosexuals into the military, which makes of the military a propaganda machine for the spirit of rebellion against the laws of God.
At the psychological/spiritual level where wars are won and lost, the forces of freedom, who require massive amounts of Divine Intercession to drive back the darkness to win any war, have zero help in that area now.
Soldiers can still pray of course, and God will answer the prayer to the extent that the freewill of the American people will allow.
But the American people have turned a cold shoulder to God, they have made their military into a global propaganda machine that celebrates the virtue of rebellion against God. No intercession can be given that will help America win a victory in that war, or any other war.
There is no possibility that the Lord God will allow America to hold up a trophy, and say, "look we can rebel against God, and still win. We don't need God." That is never going to happen.
Therefore, America is at its weakest point now, in the nation's history. While America still has substantial power, the dark side forces note the lack of Divine Intercession. They note America's ever increasingly vulnerability to the energies of demoralization. This is a state of profound weakness that will invite more attacks upon our interests worldwide, and upon our homeland.
Remember, the hatred of the demonic realm, which is committed to destroy God's Dream for the freedom of His people, has nothing to hold it back. This is a very very dangerous time for America.
And the election of Mitt Romney, as Romney stands for Rebellion Against God, will make the Divine Providence situation worse. America has no access to Divine Providence in its national affairs today. But this could be turned around if the people turn around. The question is, how fast can this situation be turned around? In day, a week, a month, a year? The election of Mitt Romney would add an additional delay factor, prolonging America's suffering at the hands of its enemies.
To: GoldenEagles
366
posted on
05/15/2012 4:35:11 PM PDT
by
Mozilla
(Constitution Party 2012)
To: GoldenEagles
367
posted on
05/15/2012 4:37:18 PM PDT
by
Mozilla
(Constitution Party 2012)
To: GoldenEagles
368
posted on
05/15/2012 5:04:48 PM PDT
by
Mozilla
(Constitution Party 2012)
To: Mozilla
Mozilla, thanks for taking the time and effort to post all of that good material. Lots of good videos in there.
But when it comes to the call to abandon ship, I must say no, that’s not for me. I am a Republican through and through and would never consider leaving the Republican Party. As far as I’m concerned, we must stand our ground, on the main deck, stop retreating, organize our ranks, go on the offensive, and fight off these pirates, and take our ship back. As it was shouted above the din of battle many generations before me, “Don’t Give Up the Ship!” I hear that voice calling to me.
Comment #370 Removed by Moderator
To: Kaslin
Is the OP another one of these tedious only-Ron-Paul-can-save-us things?
To: roamer_1
So 'the end justifies the means'... That is not a conservative principle. In November, there are only three options available to us (vote Romney, vote Obama, abstain) and only two outcomes possible (Obama wins, Romney wins).
Tell us your preference.
Stop telling us what you are against, and tell us who you want to win in November. And if you can, do not respond with name-calling and saying I'm a godless Romneybot or Obama supporter.
As I see it, we've lost in this election cycle. The only rational thing to be discussing now, is who will do the least damage over the next four years, and why. Meanwhile, spend our time productively to replace as many RINOs with Conservatives as we can over the next election cycles.
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posted on
05/20/2012 8:08:24 AM PDT
by
PapaBear3625
(If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
To: PapaBear3625
[roamer_1:] So 'the end justifies the means'... That is not a conservative principle.In November, there are only three options available to us (vote Romney, vote Obama, abstain) and only two outcomes possible (Obama wins, Romney wins).
Tell us your preference.
I disagree with your assessment - I will be voting for a Conservative - Goode or Hoefling... or perhaps a Libertarian, which would be the next best thing.
Stop telling us what you are against, and tell us who you want to win in November. And if you can, do not respond with name-calling and saying I'm a godless Romneybot or Obama supporter.
I don't vote *against*, I vote *for* a candidate - I will be voting *for* the closest thing to a Reagan Conservative I can get... Providing the candidate is palatable according to Conservative principles - And that candidate is 'who I want to win.'
As I see it, we've lost in this election cycle. [...]
Not necessarily. The TEA Parties are a powerful thing.
The only rational thing to be discussing now, is who will do the least damage over the next four years, and why. Meanwhile, spend our time productively to replace as many RINOs with Conservatives as we can over the next election cycles.
The I would highly suggest supporting Conservatism at all levels, to include the presidency. Give Conservatives someone to vote *for* and they will come a'running. Allow a liberal to carry the Conservative mantle, and they will stay home - and that will certainly effect the down-ticket that you seem to be concerned with.
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posted on
05/20/2012 11:13:09 AM PDT
by
roamer_1
(Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
To: roamer_1
I don't vote *against*, I vote *for* a candidate - I will be voting *for* the closest thing to a Reagan Conservative I can get... Providing the candidate is palatable according to Conservative principles - And that candidate is 'who I want to win.' I can understand your choice. Essentially you don't care whether Romney or Obama wins, and will accept either outcome.
Meanwhile, if Romney wins, it puts him on notice that, unless he runs his presidency conservatively, he will not get conservative support in 2016, and may even get a primary challenger (I'm personally in favor of WI gov Scott Walker -- a man who has demonstrated that he will actually fight for conservative principles, and actually win).
I think Romney cares more about winning, than any ideological position.
374
posted on
05/20/2012 11:37:35 AM PDT
by
PapaBear3625
(If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
To: PapaBear3625
I can understand your choice. Essentially you don't care whether Romney or Obama wins, and will accept either outcome.No, I abhor either outcome - that is why I will vote for neither man. There is not a single conservative quality in either one.
Meanwhile, if Romney wins, it puts him on notice that, unless he runs his presidency conservatively, he will not get conservative support in 2016, and may even get a primary challenger [...]
While I appreciate the possibility, nothing assures Romney's compliance... And his record nearly denies it. And IF he were to get his second term, with the help of the Conservatives, pray tell what would stop him from following his nature then?
I think Romney cares more about winning, than any ideological position.
That may well be, as it is plain that he enjoys the game - But it is only an opinion. Again, his record shows what he is, and is the closest thing we can come to wrt expectation. And his ideology is in the heart, and is the heart's default position. I cannot sanction what I find there.
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posted on
05/20/2012 11:59:35 AM PDT
by
roamer_1
(Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
To: PapaBear3625
PapaBear3625 says, "Meanwhile, if Romney wins ..."
Willard cannot win. He is a totally empty suit in which there are no strengths to challenge Obama's strengths. And if you don't think Obama has strengths, you are kidding yourself. You are breaking the first law of war fighting, which is to know your enemy. If you do not recognize his strengths, you will not be able to devise a strategy to overcome them. Willard is the personification of a state of mindless though willful ignorance in this regard.
This is classic case study for the proposition that the energy of hatred causes dysfunction in the vision faculties of the soul.
Using Willard as one of their key soldiers in this battle against the Light, he was used by the Dark side to spew grotesque lies in the direction of the two real conservatives in this race, Gingrich and Santorum, ginning up a strong wave of hatred in their direction, effectively character assassinating them, leaving them dead on the battlefield.
The Republican Electorate, swept into this energy of hatred, became blind, by the power of this hatred, to all dimensions of truth from that point forward, and thereafter they became locked into an illusion that no one but this empty suit can beat Obama, and that there is no hope for victory against Obama but this total fraud. It is really an amazing spectacle to see, how the whole Republican Army has been effectively swept off the battlefield and into a box canyon.
In their cozy embrace of the canyon walls, scribbled all over with the graffiti of their empty war cries, which echoed loudly in the canyon land, but nowhere else, they will wake up on the morning of November 5, 2012, just like they did on November 5, 2008, sitting forlornly around the cold coals of their hopes and dreams, finding that their candidate has lost again.
For the Children of God, trampling on the principles of God in your quest for power, will never win you a victory. I hope you will finally learn that lesson this time around.
As defeat looms again, I hope you will face that lesson now, in time to turn things around, that is, turn yourself around, march out of that box canyon, and back onto the real battlefield, where the forces of Light and Darkness are locked in an epic battle for the SOUL of America.
Find the still bodies of your fallen leaders, Gingrich and Santorum, pray over them, raise them out of their coma of defeat, organize your ranks, and then march forward in the direction of victory.
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