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To: EnglishCon
I left Catholicism when, after a long discussion with a Jesuit, regarding my father's destination after he had died, resulted in "Jude" (not Fr. Jude ... just Jude .. (Newman Center) .. ) admitting he didn't know where my father was (as good and staunch a Catholic if there ever was one), and nobody could know, because no one had ever come back and told us .... and I realized ... he was no closer to God than I was.

He was more than likely in Purgatory and would get out .... eventually ... but no one knows when)

So ... a 33.33% chance my father was in Heaven and a 66.66% chance he wasn't.

Sounded like, "Good luck kid, I hope you make it"


Catholicism ceased to be a valid politic at that point.

39 posted on 04/23/2012 8:00:37 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: knarf

Catholicism isn’t politics.

You are still a Catholic and can come back at any time. Find a priest you can talk with and get your questions answered.

On the heaven, purgatory or hell question — no one knows. The priest was right.

But read some of the NDE threads — and you will be surprised at what these near death experinces revealed to people. Many have converted to Catholicim because of them.


41 posted on 04/23/2012 8:12:38 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: knarf

OH {Censored}!!!

I am so sorry. Did not and could not know. That is about the cruelest thing anyone can say, ever.

May your father be seated at the right hand of God, FRiend, and may your own path to Him be smooth.
Our Lord and Saviour judge with mercy and love.


42 posted on 04/23/2012 8:15:24 PM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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