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Sheesh, for-clinton is a good name

Do some reading like

HOLOCAUST-SURVIVING JEWS THANK POPE
Israeli diplomat praises Pope Pius XII for saving thousands of Jews during the Holocaust
'Nazi' Pope helped Jews flee Holocaust
'Hitler's Pope' saved thousands of Jewish lives

Evidently you never heard of the Encyclical "Mit Brennender Sorge" 9With burning concern), signed by Pope Pius XI which condemned Nazi ideology as "insane and arrogant" and

Whoever exalts race, or the people, or the state, or a particular form of state, or the depositories of power, or any other fundamental value of the human community—however necessary and honorable be their function in worldly things—whoever raises these notions above their standard value and raises them to an idolatrous level, distorts and perverts an order of the world planned and created by God

If you read William L Shirer's "The Rize and fall of Nazi Germany" a scholarly work that notes that afer this " thousands of Catholic priests, nuns and lay leaders were arrested, many of them on trumped-up charges of 'immorality' or 'smuggling foreign currency'."

St.Maximilian Kolbe was sent to the concentration camps for speaking out against the Nazis.

2 million Catholic Poles were slaughtered by Nazis

The Archbishop of Utrecht in the Netherlands published a letter on April 19, 1942, which was read in every Catholic church in the country. The bishops of Holland jointly denounced "the unmerciful and unjust treatment meted out to Jews by those in power in our country."

The Israeli historian Pinchas Lapide interviewed war survivors and concluded that Pius XII "was instrumental in saving at least 700,000, but probably as many as 860,000 Jews from certain death at Nazi hands"

In contrast, point out what your particular cult did against the Nazis?

for-clinton, did you read my post above? Please do note that the fairy tale about the Church standing idly by IS a fairy tale. Could the Church have done more? Yes we could have -- the Catholics in Germany were opposed to Naziism (note-- that's not a jibe against Protestants, Protestantism in Germany was weakened in the 1800s when a devout Calvinist Emperor forcibly joined the Calvinist and Lutheran churches and made this united church for all purposes a department of the Prussian government -- this had a horrific effect as Calvinists and Lutherans have serious difference in core beliefs and the government forcing just made people lose faith in God and forced a faith in the welfare state being set up -- this made them ripe for the Aryan Christianity lie created in the 30s)

The Vatican remember was from the 1870s little more than a prison after the unification of Italy. This ended with the Concordat in the 1920s which severely limited what they could do or not.

In the circumstances, I dare you to name any other 'player' besides the Polish underground that did as much. FDR and Churchill's governments KNEW about the concentration camps and the holocaust and they did nothing.