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To: GonzoII
The Church does NOT compel her members to kneel or pray before images. No one is allowed by the Church to pray to images since they have no ears to hear or power to help us. The Church allows for the veneration of images as long as the honor is directed towards Christ and His saints.

Completely untrue...We watch your popes kneel and pray to statues far too often on tv...

That may be an inconvenient truth for you guys but live with it...You're not fooling anyone but yourselves...

And this contradicts every Catholic I have ever spoken to...Mary and the saints DO hear you and you even post bogus reference scripture out of Revelation to prove it...

Now one must ask the question: "Does God forbid the making of statues, or does He condemn the worship of statues?" If God condemns the divine worship of statues, then the Catholic division scheme is justified since these images would be "other gods before" Him. A separate Commandment based on Deut. 5:8-10 would be redundant.

And one must answer that those who worship the statues are not necessarily the ones who made the statues...

You are not to make a statue of Mary in a bath tub for your front yard...And you are not to bow and pray to a statue of Mary, anywhere...

Now if God simply forbids the making of graven images, then there are problems elsewhere in the Bible. First, in Exodus 25:18-21, God commands Moses to make two statues of angels (cherubim) for the top of the Ark of the Covenant. Later in Numbers 21:8-9, God commands Moses to make a bronze serpent, so that the people who were bitten by snakes could look upon it and be healed.

Wrong again...When God says to do something for him, you do it...When he says don't do it for you, you don't do it...You guys can thumb your noses at God and tell him that if he can tell you to do it for him, you can decide for yourselves to do it for you...But I certainly would advise against it...

The Church allows for the veneration of the saints and their images as long as it remains honor proper for men.Really??? Do men answer prayers for you and perform miracles??? And then on the other side of your mouths you claim that this veneration to Mary is 'special' veneration apart from those of your other 'special' veneration for those your religion has claimed are special saints who are apart from the normal Catholic layman...

At least for Mary, our honor to her is in imitation of Jesus, her Son

How pitiful...Jesus never bowed to or insinuated or intimated that his mother was the Queen of Heaven...He never even called her Mother...He called her woman...

it would be interesting to know what the author of the booklet thought of Jesus Christ when He reduced God's Commandments to the Two Great Commandments in Matt. 22:36-40.Jesus did not reduce the Commandments...He gave two commandments which encompasses and fulfills ALL of the Commandments...

If you violate ANY of those Commandments, you violate the two commandments that Jesus gave...

8 posted on 04/15/2012 8:43:07 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Iscool
Wrong again...When God says to do something for him, you do it...When he says don't do it for you, you don't do it...You guys can thumb your noses at God and tell him that if he can tell you to do it for him, you can decide for yourselves to do it for you...But I certainly would advise against it...

Short, sweet and to the point. I agree.

You don't get to negotiate with God, well maybe what Abram did with the 50, 40...10 righteous people in Sodom or Gomorrah.

34 posted on 04/15/2012 4:11:12 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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