[raygunfan]

this is the best you anti catholics can do? simply declare the catholic church did it, and provide nothing to substantiate it or bring up facts to refute the actual article itself?

lame.

[Quix]

this is the best you anti catholics can do? simply declare the catholic church did it, and provide nothing to substantiate it or bring up facts to refute the actual article itself?

lame.

Not lame

AT ALL.

Quite OBVIOUS, actually.

There's no other remotely adequate explanation that fits the historical record or the rather plain linear facts of the documents.