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To: darrellmaurina
Check out what's happening across the pond, Darrell. The British government is in the throes of legalizing gay "marriage". There's been plenty of talk about churches not being forced to participate in these ceremonies but it's just that; talk. Those who understand the equality laws understand that once gay marriage becomes legal, to refuse marriage to a homosexual couple will incur severe legal penalties and thus churches will be faced with some very unpleasant choices, including possibly padlocking the doors of their buildings.

The point I'm making here is that those who ignore the culture wars, including gay marriage, are not going to be spared. They're in for a most unpleasant surprise. Even if they don't want to fight in this culture war, the war will be coming to them, whether they like or or not......and soon!

3 posted on 03/22/2012 8:26:35 AM PDT by marshmallow (.)
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To: marshmallow; aimhigh
I agree about what's happening on the “other side of the pond.”

Read my post #6 on this thread, which has direct reference to the mess in the Church of Scotland. While Roman Catholics are fighting against gay marriage in England, the Church of Scotland (which has its own internal homosexual problem) is avoiding speaking out.

Rev. Jason Stellman, a PCA minister in Washington state who is a former missionary in Europe and is a prominent “two kingdoms” advocate, was asked what he thinks about whether the Church of Scotland (and by extension other Reformed bodies in Britain) have the right to speak up.

His answer was interesting, and not too bad.

The more radical “two kingdoms” people continued, however, to say the church ought not to be talking about gay marriages since it's a political rather than a religious question.

That is simply not biblical or Reformed.

At best, it's an overreaction to the craziness of twentieth-century liberalism in which the assemblies of the church wasted tremendous amounts of time fighting over whether to endorse liberal political goals, and (in the South) a sincere desire to follow the old Southern Presbyterian tradition of avoiding political statements on things like slavery. I believe the Southern Presbyterians were dead wrong on that — slavery was a moral issue and the slaveholders were wrong — but I can at least respect people who are following what they believe is an “Old School” theological conservative viewpoint.

At worst, this refusal to take a stand on “political questions” it's nothing but an attempt to carve out room in the church for liberal political positions.

7 posted on 03/22/2012 10:09:48 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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